Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

[Swinglowandslow]

Ironically (happy to be corrected) that washing of hands and surfaces with deemed pretty much no effect to the spread but the one thing that really can work is masks (correctly fitted and of the right grade)

Doesn't hurt ofc to keep good hygiene

Your right about that study, it was to say to people look it's safe however it's safe because your not here breathing on others

"And we have cleaned the place often and thoroughly etc" paraphrased.

So the study is not saying the virus cannot and does not spread by transmission from surfaces, does it?
And after years of flu and cold viruses spreading via surfaces, how come Covid doesn't?
Ok, not nearly as efficiently as breathing virus laden air, but let's not pretend "not at all".
And Ethan, are you saying that respiratory viruses do not spread via surfaces? Because that's how your post reads to me . If I understand wrongly, I apologise, but if not, I'm surprised at that , coming from a Dr.

 

[Ethan]

"And we have cleaned the place often and thoroughly etc" paraphrased.

So the study is not saying the virus cannot and does not spread by transmission from surfaces, does it?
And after years of flu and cold viruses spreading via surfaces, how come Covid doesn't?
Ok, not nearly as efficiently as breathing virus laden air, but let's not pretend "not at all".
And Ethan, are you saying that respiratory viruses do not spread via surfaces? Because that's how your post reads to me . If I understand wrongly, I apologise, but if not, I'm surprised at that , coming from a Dr.

You don't understand me wrongly. Surface transmission has been looked at as a source of Covid transmission and was found to be fairly insignificant. There is a difference between virus surviving on surfaces and viruses being able to be picked up in adequate quantities and in adequate condition to cause disease. This will vary between viruses.

Masks, ventilation, outside vs inside, social distancing, isolation and, of course, vaccination are much more important.

CDC

Nature

 

[SocketRocket]

Neither….that’s what we’ve been told to do now…..

Not really. We've been advised to self isolate, not crack on with it.

 

[PJ87]

Not really. We've been advised to self isolate, not crack on with it.

what worries me more is say for example my companies policy is to isolate still, supported with sick pay because if you come in you could infect more staff so its not worth it..business case given atm

however what about for example the cleaners... contracted out.. prob dont have this support...

one of them gets it, cant afford to isolate .. we all get it

 

[Swinglowandslow]

You don't understand me wrongly. Surface transmission has been looked at as a source of Covid transmission and was found to be fairly insignificant. There is a difference between virus surviving on surfaces and viruses being able to be picked up in adequate quantities and in adequate condition to cause disease. This will vary between viruses.

Masks, ventilation, outside vs inside, social distancing, isolation and, of course, vaccination are much more important.

CDC

Nature

Last sentence- yes, of course , agree completely, but still somewhat surprised at the volte face re surfaces.
It's one of those things about viruses, in almost all cases it cannot be proved where and how precisely it was picked up.?

 

[Blue in Munich]

Last sentence- yes, of course , agree completely, but still somewhat surprised at the volte face re surfaces.
It's one of those things about viruses, in almost all cases it cannot be proved where and how precisely it was picked up.?

Given what we knew at the start about transmission, I'd guess it was a case of cover all the bases first off then withdraw what isn't effective as we go forward.

 

[Backache]

Just been skiing in Italy, it's all pretty organized with compulsory masks on all lifts and you have to be vaccinated to get a lift pass or get into bars. All shops and hotels have mask wearing.

 

[Ethan]

Last sentence- yes, of course , agree completely, but still somewhat surprised at the volte face re surfaces.
It's one of those things about viruses, in almost all cases it cannot be proved where and how precisely it was picked up.?

I don't think it was a volte face. As BIM said, reasonable to start with that, although the distinction between indoors and outdoors was never really adequately made, but as we understood Covid better, a number of aspects of the strategy evolved.

It is also a useful visible symbol, even if rather ineffective, that shops and public buildings were taking is seriously, and it is a lot easier to do that fundamentally improve ventilation or clean the air.

 

[Robster59]

We had a phone call from my Stepson yesterday. His partner has got Covid. This is the third time she has had it. She works as a teacher, and he works with displaced teenagers, so both in jobs with lots of opportunities to catch the Virus.
My missus went around to see them on Saturday to drop off a birthday present for one of their children, so now we are testing. I'm having to do it daily, as today I am travelling on business.
I have a new starter I have to train tomorrow, and then work in Oxford on Wednesday. Wonderful!

 

[backwoodsman]

Is covid over??? A whole day and only one post! Is it too much to hope that, finally, everyone has argued themselves to a standstill

 

[GreiginFife]

Is covid over??? A whole day and only one post! Is it too much to hope that, finally, everyone has argued themselves to a standstill

They’re mostly all arguing on the Ukraine thread.

Experts in public health and virology are now experts in military tactics and diplomatic relations.

 

[road2ruin]

Is covid over??? A whole day and only one post! Is it too much to hope that, finally, everyone has argued themselves to a standstill

 

[Ethan]

Is covid over??? A whole day and only one post! Is it too much to hope that, finally, everyone has argued themselves to a standstill

It is the phoney war with Covid. Is it over or is Covid HQ marshalling its forces ready for another onslaught with a new variant (not BA.2, which does not look like the ultimate weapon). We will soon see if the recent abandonment of all measures has an effect. If not, then we might be fine, unless and until another bad variant which escapes population immunity comes along. That is not an unrealistic scenario.

 

[DanFST]

When should we know by Ethan? End of this week?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Well I’m currently self isolating - felt a bit rough over weekend but Covid test was negative, took one yesterday as my taste went and Covid test positive- just feels like a rough cold

 

[Ethan]

When should we know by Ethan? End of this week?

Not sure if the new approach to testing will be as responsive as before on community cases, but hospital numbers will tell that part of the tale soon enough.

 

[garyinderry]

Theres a fair bit if going around my work. First batch of sick coming back and a new batch all off for 10 days they are being told.

 

[SocketRocket]

Some friends have Covid and are not well at all. I think it's far from over but it's not going to be easy to understand what's going on with the drop in testing and people now making their own minds up what to do when infected.

 

[Blue in Munich]

After my PCR positive result, I opted to take the antibody test if selected. Kit came Saturday, sample taken yesterday, posted in a priority postbox with a 5.30pm collection, text and email with the results at 4.00pm today; outstanding by the Post Office & the NHS.

Seems I have antibodies which means I have been previously infected ;

Thank you for doing a coronavirus (COVID-19) antibody test.

Antibodies were found in your blood sample.

This means it’s likely you’ve had COVID-19 previously. We detected antibodies that are made after an infection, and also antibodies that could have been caused by a vaccine.

This result does not guarantee you are fully immune (protected) from COVID-19. It’s still possible to get the virus again or spread it, although your risk is reduced if you’ve had the vaccine or already been infected.

It’s important to keep following COVID-19 advice.

If you took this test because you tested positive for COVID-19 in the last week, it’s unlikely the antibodies detected are from your recent infection. They’re more likely to be from a previous infection.

So God knows when I got that ; the one time I had what I thought was a heavy cold but potentially could have been Covid I did LFT's daily & was always negative, otherwise I've been completely asymptomatic.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Mandatory vaccination requirement for care home workers being removed. Hmmm. Why?