Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

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SammmeBee said:
Just don’t go out……simples!
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It's really that simple is it?...that as we are providing care and support to a highly vulnerable individual (and also to a 2nd who is vulnerable due to age being in 90s) then we too should just stay at home (with them) because others can't be a**ed wearing a mask and for a short while continuing doing other simple viral spread containment measures such as self-isolating?

Yeh of course - it's simples...Not heard much of late from the chief medical and scientific folks on any of this and how it's all now OK to go with uncontrolled infection spread.
 
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pauldj42 said:
What are the Spanish Government saying about future restrictions Bri?
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Covid passports for entry into bars/restaurants ends today. Beyond today, all options are on the table should there be any resurgence. All of the autonomous regions, e.g. Andalucia, has an almost instant authority to reimpose any restriction they deem necessary.

Devolved powers in Spain, even down local councils(juntas) and sports federations, mean that extra precautions can be imposed when they want. The bowling federation dictates that everyone’s temperature must be taken to gain entry to club property, including outside bowling greens. There’s even rules still in place ref playing capacity, how many on the green and how you pass each other when you change ends.
 
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Hobbit said:
Covid passports for entry into bars/restaurants ends today. Beyond today, all options are on the table should there be any resurgence. All of the autonomous regions, e.g. Andalucia, has an almost instant authority to reimpose any restriction they deem necessary.

Devolved powers in Spain, even down local councils(juntas) and sports federations, mean that extra precautions can be imposed when they want. The bowling federation dictates that everyone’s temperature must be taken to gain entry to club property, including outside bowling greens. There’s even rules still in place ref playing capacity, how many on the green and how you pass each other when you change ends.
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What if someone tests positive?
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
It's really that simple is it?...that as we are providing care and support to a highly vulnerable individual (and also to a 2nd who is vulnerable due to age being in 90s) then we too should just stay at home (with them) because others can't be a**ed wearing a mask and for a short while continuing doing other simple viral spread containment measures?

Yeh of course - it's simples...Not heard much of late from the chief medical and scientific folks on any of this and how it's all now OK.
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Their choice not to wear a mask, and your choice not to go out. It is that simple. You can’t force someone to wear one, under the current rules. Not saying it’s right, but that’s what it is.
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
It's really that simple is it?...that as we are providing care and support to a highly vulnerable individual (and also to a 2nd who is vulnerable due to age being in 90s) then we too should just stay at home (with them) because others can't be a**ed wearing a mask and for a short while continuing doing other simple viral spread containment measures such as self-isolating?

Yeh of course - it's simples...Not heard much of late from the chief medical and scientific folks on any of this and how it's all now OK to go with uncontrolled infection spread.
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Without sounding flippant as I do appreciate your situation but do you not have confidence in the vaccine? Given that the present variant is ‘milder’ for most and your family would be triple jabbed aren’t they at a point where they have to decide to get out? It’s highly likely that they’ll contract Covid at some point and, so far, the vaccine has proved highly effective at preventing serious illness and hospitalisation amongst the vulnerable.

With regards the lifting of restrictions, even if you got your way and they were kept for the next 6 months there will still become a point where they will be lifted and, probably come winter, they will be faced with exactly the same challenges. I know it’s not an easy situation however you’re not going to be able to enforce mandatory isolation especially given that so many simply couldn’t afford to do so.

Rumours are that free tests are to end from next week so that really makes the publishing of Covid figures redundant.
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
It's really that simple is it?...that as we are providing care and support to a highly vulnerable individual (and also to a 2nd who is vulnerable due to age being in 90s) then we too should just stay at home (with them) because others can't be a**ed wearing a mask and for a short while continuing doing other simple viral spread containment measures such as self-isolating?

Yeh of course - it's simples...Not heard much of late from the chief medical and scientific folks on any of this and how it's all now OK to go with uncontrolled infection spread.
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The simple fact is that 'policy' decisions are made to fit the majority and so individuals may or may not be disadvantaged.

The majority will be OK as they will not be in very close proximity to an infected person for more than a fleeting moment as so the viral load is also very low should transmission occur.

Working people and companies need to function in a stable environment- as far as that is possible. Loads of people who may be vulnerable for one reason or another manage their own lives by making decisions that fit their circumstances and risks.

At some stage we need to stop relying on the state and behave responsibly.
 
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What really doesn’t help in this thread is people exagerrating or trying to belittle others with little games of one upmanship.

99.9% of posters are intelligent enough to realise we will, hopefully, sooner or later return to normal and people simply getting on with their lives.

However, a little bit more tolerance wouldn’t go a miss for those who, for whatever reason, wish for it to go a bit slower. They obviously have their reasons which we may not agree with.

If you don’t like their post, ignore it, but answering the way some are makes your opinion no better than theirs.
 
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Billysboots said:
Now you’re just making me angry. Go back to that post, read it again, and take note of the question mark after the word “zero”. I was asking a question, not making a statement.

Nice try.
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What difference does a question mark make to your quote, you were suggesting I would like self isolation to continue untill case rates are zero and you know it, you're using semantics to deny what your intended meaning was.

Oh! And calm down, its only a discussion on a Golf forum.
 
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What difference does a question mark make to your quote, you were suggesting I would like self isolation to continue untill case rates are zero and you know it, you're using semantics to deny what your intended meaning was.

Oh! And calm down, its only a discussion on s Golf forum.
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Actually he wasn’t, he was replying to me.

As much as it’s a forum, you jumped in.(y)
 
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SocketRocket said:
It doesn't change the fact that he was inferring I wanted restrictions to continue untill there was zero Covid.
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This is maybe how you took it. I didn't take it that way when I read the post. He didn't say "anybody who doesn't want restrictions lifted will clearly not be happy until rates are zero". It was quite clearly a question, that basically set the extreme scenario, and then offer you and others (well, Paul and others) the chance to say where your threshold is above that. And, it is a sensible question in such a debate. Because, a person may say restrictions should not be lifted next month, but June would be fine as the weather is a bit better. But, not everyone will think that, and so arguments like this will continue.
 
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