Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

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My Stepson works in caring for displaced teenagers, whilst his partner works in a children's special needs facility. Both quite high risk.
His partner said that she had the parents sending in kids which showed all the signs of Covid but were not being tested. When they asked one of the parents to do a test on a 6-year-old, she did so and he tested positive BUT she then brought him back in the following day and said that although he tested positive, as she did not report it back to the authorities, he did not officially have Covid so she could still drop him off. According to my stepsons partner, she is technically right, but if so it is crazy and also shows the irresponsibility of the mindset of the parent. Send in your kid with Covid, he infects other kids, go home, infect their family (who may be otherwise doing everything right) and so it grows. I said she should report the woman to the authorities, which she says they already have.

Another friend, who is a nurse up here in Scotland, says the majority of people she is treating or either young(ish) unvaccinated people, or pregnant women who have not taken the vaccine for fear of damaging their unborn child. She says she can sort of understand the latter, but it still doesn't deny the fact they have lost quite a number of mothers with their unborn child due to Covid.

We would never have eradicated Polio and Smallpox if we had this mentality in the past.
 

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Another friend, who is a nurse up here in Scotland, says the majority of people she is treating or either young(ish) unvaccinated people, or pregnant women who have not taken the vaccine for fear of damaging their unborn child. She says she can sort of understand the latter, but it still doesn't deny the fact they have lost quite a number of mothers with their unborn child due to Covid.

The problem they have with the pregnant ladies is that the message to mums to be was that it was probably best not to have the vaccine so they didn't. Suddenly the official message changed but on a local level there were (and still are in some areas) consultants/GP's/Midwives advising the ladies not to have it. Whilst it doesn't necessarily make sense to anyone looking in from the outside the mum's are solely focussed on the health of their baby and will do nothing to risk it and there seemed to be a feeling of distrust as to why the message could suddenly change from don't do it to 'go for it'. I appreciate there is overwhelming evidence pointing towards getting the vaccine but not all the decisions are being driven by common sense.
 

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2x LFT’s, one last night and one a short while ago. Both negative. Not Covid but not nice. Mega sore throat and a proper hacking cough.

As for being able to get kits for testing, not a problem at all.
 

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Honest conversation between people I know on Messanger about a New Years eve party I decided not to go to:

Person 1: Just heard that xxxxx at the party has just tested positive.
Rest of Group: That is OK, we do not really know them and did not spend any time near them on NYE.
Me: You do realise that she may have caught it on NYE rather than having brought it with her and someone else at the party could of spread it

Loud Sound of Penny Dropping

Rest of Group: Ah, we better get tested then

Sometimes I just want to weep

And that will be 2 of my friends who went testing positive on LFTs this morning.
 

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Never thought I would see this in the
Guardian. The nanny state's mouthpiece publishing an article that basically says nannying isn't the answer.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... -scientist

saw that the other day and found myself agreeing with a piece in the Guardian! A rare event and echoes a lot of what i said last year in advocating the core strategy of protecting the vulnerable while keeping as much of the economy open as possible was a better solution than long blanket lock downs
 

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saw that the other day and found myself agreeing with a piece in the Guardian! A rare event and echoes a lot of what i said last year in advocating the core strategy of protecting the vulnerable while keeping as much of the economy open as possible was a better solution than long blanket lock downs
In 2020 we didn't have vaccines, mass testing wasn't available, we were still learning how best to treat people with Covid. How exactly could we have protected the vulnerable, especially people in care homes?
 

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In 2020 we didn't have vaccines, mass testing wasn't available, we were still learning how best to treat people with Covid. How exactly could we have protected the vulnerable, especially people in care homes?

Nor did Sweden and they copoed better than us on deaths and in a different league in finances and social impact. The amount we spent is eye watering and us very conceivable that spending a fraction of that targeted on a fraction of the population could have produced a better outcome. Also the fact that when we locked down we may have been past the peak of infections. No way to be sure but we need to analyse what worked and what didn't and learn from mistakes in order to improve future actions and ensure whole societal issues are weighted appropriately
 

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If its true that fully vaccinated people are far less likely to transmit the virus then maybe the answer now is to do away with the need to self isolate if fully vacc'd. This would massively ease the pr3ssure on workplaces who are struggling with huge absences, and may have the added benefit of persuading a few sceptics into getting jabbed
 

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If its true that fully vaccinated people are far less likely to transmit the virus then maybe the answer now is to do away with the need to self isolate if fully vacc'd. This would massively ease the pr3ssure on workplaces who are struggling with huge absences, and may have the added benefit of persuading a few sceptics into getting jabbed

Isn't that already the case?

My understanding is: You need to do daily LFT's if you live in the same household with no requirement to self-isolate if fully vaccinated unless you start to show symptoms or get a positive LFT. No requirement even for LFT's if you are fully vaccinated and have contact with someone who then has a positive test?
 

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If its true that fully vaccinated people are far less likely to transmit the virus then maybe the answer now is to do away with the need to self isolate if fully vacc'd. This would massively ease the pr3ssure on workplaces who are struggling with huge absences, and may have the added benefit of persuading a few sceptics into getting jabbed

I think this or some form of it will have to happen soon. The massive financial burden of the last two years is going to be felt very heavily across the country this year as inflation is shooting above 5%, interest rates likely to be 3x higher at around 1% (they were 0.1% last month), with the prospect of this overshooting if inflation stays stubbornly high, the new 125bp Health tax from April, the massively elevated costs of servicing the extra government debt - we need to do everything possible to Stoke economic growth to try and ameliorate all these issues
 

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Isn't that already the case?

My understanding is: You need to do daily LFT's if you live in the same household with no requirement to self-isolate if fully vaccinated unless you start to show symptoms or get a positive LFT. No requirement even for LFT's if you are fully vaccinated and have contact with someone who then has a positive test?
Correct , 2 of my kids have it but wife and I don't need to isolate. I have a few lfts and so far they have been negative. The kids are wandering the house too.
 

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Understand that there is a new variant that has been discovered in the South East of France. 48 mutations from the original but only a dozen or so infected with this one so far.

5th odd variant in two years and undoubtedly more to come.

Is it a case of high alert for each one of these just in case it's a bad one? I hope not.

I am still of the opinion that we should just crack on with it and go back to normal life
 
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