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Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

You would think a good N95, you would notice in the real world, see below , wouldnt you (yeah I am someone who wears a N99, as believe in that they protect but.........)

The problems with masks in the community is the fit is poor, law of unintended consequences, touching them, wearing them for weeks and we dont actually wear them were you are most likely to get infected and so on etc. Alot of cases are more a reflection of how rich or poor you are.

Loads of real world studies(rcts pre 2020 with different kinds of mask in the community showing very poor proof) and even upto date real life situations, not looked since as was so disappointed couldnt see a diffferent:- n95.jpg


Surely a N95 and negative test to enter shops, would help, surely, surely it would have an affect :-
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It's Freedom Day™, yet I'm settling in for a week of isolating, during which my wife will nag me about how it's the perfect time to get things done around the house. God. :cry:
 
It’s Freedom day - no change whatsoever for me.
Can’t even use a rake as big National competitions on at the Club, we have thin pins which I will leave in almost all the time, the only change to my life will be that I’ll able to use the ball washers, if only the fairways were muddy.
 
Ethan said:
Well, the one I use, bought on the net, has disposable PM2.5 filters in it.
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I get that but the advice has never been at that level. It is pretty much 'wear a face covering'. Northumberland County Council gave out thousands of self printed snood coverings to their employees which they wear around their necks and pull up when required, they look like the sort of things used in a Western. No idea if effective, questionable how often they are washed. No memo got through to them about effectiveness.
 
D-S said:
It’s Freedom day - no change whatsoever for me.
Can’t even use a rake as big National competitions on at the Club, we have thin pins which I will leave in almost all the time, the only change to my life will be that I’ll able to use the ball washers, if only the fairways were muddy.
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I leave the pins in, have been happy with placing in a bunker but the one thing I have missed is ball cleaners. Welcome back to them :D
 
SocketRocket said:
This current go-to phrase 'We've got to learn to live with it' concerns me. What exactly do we have to learn to live with, rampaging infection rates, loved ones seriously ill or dead, NHS overloaded so non Covid treatments and Ops are postponed further, vulnerable people having to lock themselves away and live in fear, people having long term organ damage and failure. Wow! Sounds a hoot and what's the pay off for all this, the pleasure of sitting on a tram or bus, shopping, crowding at the bar of a pub, almost anything you want to do with no mask or social distance. And so the ship of fools sail on.
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Not sure if that is in response to me, but what I actually said was that we need to adapt and live with Covid, not that we simply needed to learn to live with it. There is a difference.

Like many here I am now double jabbed but I will still be wearing a face covering if and when I use public transport, and in crowded indoor places. I doubt I’ll ever return to the days of close personal contact with non family members.

I would never advocate simply going back to “normal” pre-Covid ways. To do so would plainly be foolish.
 
Given this debate it seems amazing that through the first lockdown in March last year and for many weeks afterwards, we were not wearing any face masks.
 
Heading by train off up to London shortly. Tickets booked for The Tower, then meeting with friends in the Sky Garden for pre-dinner drinks, and then to Spitalfields for dinner. Uber back to Waterloo. Will be interesting to see how folks are working cautiously within the new 'guidelines'. We will not be using the underground.
 
Billysboots said:
Not sure if that is in response to me, but what I actually said was that we need to adapt and live with Covid, not that we simply needed to learn to live with it. There is a difference.

Like many here I am now double jabbed but I will still be wearing a face covering if and when I use public transport, and in crowded indoor places. I doubt I’ll ever return to the days of close personal contact with non family members.

I would never advocate simply going back to “normal” pre-Covid ways. To do so would plainly be foolish.
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It's wasn't directed at you personally. I keep hearing people saying 'We have to learn to live with Covid' and I don't understand exactly what they mean by that, in many cases I think it means ' We have to let it rip and accept the consequences'. I'm not suggesting you are saying this but it would help if people clarified what they mean by it.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I get that but the advice has never been at that level. It is pretty much 'wear a face covering'. Northumberland County Council gave out thousands of self printed snood coverings to their employees which they wear around their necks and pull up when required, they look like the sort of things used in a Western. No idea if effective, questionable how often they are washed. No memo got through to them about effectiveness.
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I see people wearing masks improperly all the time too. Look it at it like this. If you were advising a heavy smoker on health improvement, you would like to see them stop altogether, but if that wasn't feasible, cutting down or switching to a lower tar cigarette is better than nothing.

Mask wearing is a probability game. The risk is not constant, but you don't know when someone has coughed a cloud of virus into the air that you are about to breathe. Having something that reduces the chance that you will inhale it, or that you will inhale a lower viral load, is therefore a good thing. Having a proper FFP3 mask is better, but just because you can't do the better doesn't mean you shouldn't do the good.

A lot of people don't respond to evidence that changes their pre-determined mindset. Some people got the idea fixed in their mind at the start that this virus only hurts old or vulnerable people and young people might only get a flu-like illness, and that false picture has remained resistant to facts and data since.
 
Ethan said:
I see people wearing masks improperly all the time too. Look it at it like this. If you were advising a heavy smoker on health improvement, you would like to see them stop altogether, but if that wasn't feasible, cutting down or switching to a lower tar cigarette is better than nothing.

Mask wearing is a probability game. The risk is not constant, but you don't know when someone has coughed a cloud of virus into the air that you are about to breathe. Having something that reduces the chance that you will inhale it, or that you will inhale a lower viral load, is therefore a good thing. Having a proper FFP3 mask is better, but just because you can't do the better doesn't mean you shouldn't do the good.

A lot of people don't respond to evidence that changes their pre-determined mindset. Some people got the idea fixed in their mind at the start that this virus only hurts old or vulnerable people and young people might only get a flu-like illness, and that false picture has remained resistant to facts and data since.
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All that makes sense. The second paragraph in particular is pure logic sense.
I know you have a strong opinion about the last paragraph subject, but what exactly is the data about long Covid particularly in the young ( under 40ish).
I ask because I haven't seen any figures, only anecdotal.
You see, E, what people who are very concerned about L C are up against is that day after day, we hear that such and such well known person has tested positive etc. I have never seen a follow up about any of them getting LC.
E,g in golf, quite a number of Pros have tested positive, none has reportedly got LC.
Footballers, rugby , even people on this forum.
Just how prevalent is it? .
Is there such a thing as Long Flu ( I think there is- I read something about hippocampus etc.)
Just what is the perspective of Long Covid. How big is the likelihood?
 
Just a quick vox pop from being in town today at lunchtime. Most peopel still wearing masks, in every shop where the signage said recommend wearing a mask, people were putting them on. Actually saw more people alking between shops with masks on, maybe making a point. Still, round my way, it appears that if somewhere says they would rather you wore a mask, people are wearing them
 
My colleague that was/is vaccine sceptical

She is having today.. not to keep anyone safe or that she's changed her mind re babies etc

She has a holiday booked for November ?
 
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