Concession in matchplay

[berniethebolt]

I was idly watching a singles KO matchplay - not acting as referee or in any official capacity. Both players were on the green with A having a 4 foot put for par and B having no more than a foot to make par. A conceded B's putt so B walked over and casually tapped his ball towards the hole. He missed and then picked it up. A then claimed that B hitting the ball meant that the concession no longer applied and as B had not finished the hole he had lost it. B (and I) were of the opinion that a concession could not be withdrawn but A was adamant that the new rules had changed this. B asked me for a ruling which I declined and told him to report the matter to the Committee. Surely 3.2b is perfectly clear on this? Incidentally if I had had a new rule book with me could (should) I have interfered?

 

[Deleted member 15717]

Once a concession is made, it can’t be withdrawn. End of discussion.

 

[Colin L]

Had you had your rule book with you could have shown both players the Rule - in the interests of helping them settle the dispute. You were not however in a position to make an actual ruling. Rule 20.1b deals with disputes in match play.

 

[duncan mackie]

B can't do anything; it's up to A to make a timely claim, in which case the matter then goes to committee to rule after the match has been played to a result under all possible rulings (as set out in the rules reference provided by Colin).
Again as referenced by Colin you could throw the book at them 😀, but A would struggle to find the new rule he is adamant exists.

 

[Dave1980]

Once the putt has been conceded, player b has recorded a score for that hole no more shots are to be added and player A needs to play out the whole until finished.

 

[patricks148]

sounds poor TBH, A had conceded end of.

 

[mikseymono]

I've always asked them to pick it up...or if I'm close, I'll pick it up and give it to them.....means they don't get a free practise putt! But agree, I think if you are given the putt...pick it up......and then if you want a practise putt you can have a go after the hole is completed.

 

[Colin L]

I've always asked them to pick it up...or if I'm close, I'll pick it up and give it to them.....means they don't get a free practise putt! But agree, I think if you are given the putt...pick it up......and then if you want a practise putt you can have a go after the hole is completed.

The hole is completed the moment the concession is made.

 

[patricks148]

I personal feel no putt should be given over all levels of the game in match play, and why should they. If your opponent looks at you expecting a gimme then ask yourself why? Does he or she fancy the one or two footer or feel edgy. I just feel the rule should be putt everything out you have to in stroke play so why not the same for match play.

i bet you are great fun to play with then, having to putt out on every hole, bet a round with you would take all day

thats the beauty for Match Play , concede a short putt and move on

 

[patricks148]

Anyone i play in match play normally comes out the loser anyway hahah I am normally in the hole before them so they gimme's they can pick up

if you are such a great putter and in the hole from long distance why post everything should be holed???, sounds to me like you are clutching at straws for a win in the hope someone would miss from a foot

 

[rosecott]

I personal feel no putt should be given over all levels of the game in match play, and why should they. If your opponent looks at you expecting a gimme then ask yourself why? Does he or she fancy the one or two footer or feel edgy. I just feel the rule should be putt everything out you have to in stroke play so why not the same for match play.

You are missing the essence of matchplay. Good judgement as to when and when not to concede a short putt can be important.

 

[patricks148]

They normally do miss playing against me, even from a foot that is why I make them putt hahahaha If your up the challenge lets have 9 holes match play and i will give you only the putts inside one foot OK what area you from ?

no thanks you sound i bit full of yourself

 

[pendodave]

You are missing the essence of matchplay. Good judgement as to when and when not to concede a short putt can be important.

I can't help thinking that this is a myth put about by dodgy putters hoping that someone will tactically give then a 3 footer...

 

[Backache]

The hole is completed the moment the concession is made.

Surely the player has completed his hole but the result of the hole is not yet known as his opponent still had a four footer to half the hole.

 

[duncan mackie]

no thanks you sound i bit full of yourself

I thought Nairn targeted the American market? 😉

 

[patricks148]

I thought Nairn targeted the American market? 😉

no they come of there own accord
i'd image he is too busy spamming other forums for his betting site anyway

 

[patricks148]

Surely the player has completed his hole but the result of the hole is not yet known as his opponent still had a four footer to half the hole.

but he conceded it so that part is done,

 

[Backache]

but he conceded it so that part is done,

Yep my point was a littel pedantic and not really related to any ruling but I was meaning that although the player had completed the hole the hole was not completed as his opponent still had a putt to take.

 

[patricks148]

Yep my point was a littel pedantic and not really related to any ruling but I was meaning that although the player had completed the hole the hole was not completed as his opponent still had a putt to take.

yes he still has to putt, but once he has conceded thats it for the oppo, you can't change your mind

 

[Backache]

yes he still has to putt, but once he has conceded thats it for the oppo, you can't change your mind

Sure I'm not arguing that point just that maybe out of courtesy you pick your ball up and dont knock it towards the hole when your opponent has not yet completed the hole and therefore the hole is not completed.