Clubbing to a plateau green

[igivup]

An extra club or two is needed to reach a plateau green.

1.How to work out the extra yardage ?
2.What difference if distance is given by a satnav aid such as Caddy Lite?

 

[madandra]

To answer your Q's

1. I usually go 1 or 2 clubs lower and try and fly it high to stop it quicker.

2. Caddy Lite only gives you lateral distance. It doesn't allow for elevation.

 

[TonyN]

I wreckon I would take an extra club for every 10 foot i think the green is higher than the tee. and a club less for the reverse. Depending on where the pin is in relation to the centre yardage. Each hole is judged on its merits, on the day!

 

[RGuk]

1.How to work out the extra yardage ?
2.What difference if distance is given by a satnav aid such as Caddy Lite?

Dunno, and ..... um .....dunno.

I always feel that if you are bang-on a particular club, take one more. If you are in-between, do the same!!!

The trouble is, as any good player will tell you, if you take a club more and don't hit it sweet, you'll get little backspin and probably end up through the back. Quite often, if I know the flag is front-ish, I'll hit the normal iron and hope it lands just short and jumps on the front.

Today, I had 136 uphill to a green and clubbed up to a 7. Needless to say, I didn't hit it great, it landed on the very front and bounced through the back......the ball simply lands less vertical than normal.....arghh.....

On downhill holes, I only drop down a club for 4/5/6 irons. A short hole that requires a club that drops the ball almost vertical (PW/9i) makes little difference i.m.o.

 

[brendy]

I generally try to fly it onto the green if theres a bank at the back to prevent it skipping too far should it not stop timely, if there is a drop at the back id lower the flight and try to bump it short of the green and let it die out onto the green.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I add one club per 10 yard change in elevation. One thing SkyCaddy has shown me though is that on some of my greens at Ascot a flag that is at the front one day and the back the next will be a one club difference. As a result for 90% of the green where we have flags at the back I am taking one club more than I have done before and seeing much better results.

If I don't catch it cleanly I'm still long enough to get to the front portion leaving a 2 putt chance and if I do nail it I'm getting much closer to these pin postions. With the greens still being wet and receptive I've not had any worries about going too long with the exception of my 12th which has an environmental area (OB) about 10 yard over the back.

 

[RGuk]

I add one club per 10 yard change in elevation. One thing SkyCaddy has shown me though is that on some of my greens at Ascot a flag that is at the front one day and the back the next will be a one club difference. As a result for 90% of the green where we have flags at the back I am taking one club more than I have done before and seeing much better results.

The position of the flags is really important isn't it?

I have a problem at mine because on 8 holes or so, you can't actually see the base. I have bad eyesight too, which doesn't help. Many places where I've played have used a "ball" on the flagstick to denote position. I know it sounds fairly irrelevant to a mid h'cap player but when the flag is right at the back, a 3 putt is not out of the question. Also, and I think this IS fair to say for mere mortals, a shot straight at the flag (to discover it's a long pin) is somewhat wasted when you could have taken a club more. Personally, I nearly always club up, it takes out the bunkers more often than not.

 

[GB72]

Agree that the position of the flag is important and normally means the difference of one club up or down on my course. Luckily we use red flags for the front, yellow for the middle and white for the back so easy to tell.

 

[madandra]

At our recent forum day out we had this to contend with.

336 yds par 4 ... I hit my 3 wood 210 and hit my 8 iron 130 (usually 160) due to the incline. Its a great test of golf and shot making.

 

[TonyN]

There was a great raised par 3 at Fishwick hall last week 16th I think. I think it was roughly 160 yards, I took a 4 iron and landed at the front of the green(just off) Andy and Dave nailed there shots to within 12 ft each I think.

Flag position is VERY important as are hazards. I will always take a club more if the hazards at the front are close to the green, even if the flag is at the front. I would rather be putting from the back 30ft away rather than trying to splash out at the front 10 ft away!

 

[mrobbie]

Agree that the position of the flag is important and normally means the difference of one club up or down on my course. Luckily we use red flags for the front, yellow for the middle and white for the back so easy to tell.

The coloured flags is something that I saw for the 1st time when living in Australia and it made a big difference, as like people have said, some greens can easilly be 1-2 clubs difference from front to back. Here they split the greens into 3 segments (A/B/C) and the starter tells you which flag position it is for the day.

Hopefully when I return to the UK identifying the flag position will be used by more courses

 

[viscount17]

panshangar 9th. 150 yd par 3.

what the course plan doesn't show is the 'wall' in front of you which rises steeply (c 60ft) and the first crest is just beyond the trees on the right (nor does is show that immediately behind these trees is a bomb crater). The alignment marker post is barely visible.

and that path to the next tee is just as steep (oxygen required before you tee off)

http://www.panshangergolf.co.uk/course.html

 

[RGuk]

panshangar 9th. 150 yd par 3.

Why is there a taxi on the strokesaver?

 

[Vincent]

i think knowing where the pin is on a hole (especially one where you can't see the bottom of the pin) is very important(even for a 12 handicapper like me).
I have contacted our club secretary to see if we could get balls or flags on the pin, or different colour flags to denote where on the green it is or even a pin position sheet before each round. Alas he doesn't even acknowledge my letter... So I guess it is back to the guessing until we change the secretary.

 

[viscount17]

rguk, I think it's just to get you up the hill - a two-battery job on a powercaddy