Clocks go forward one hour tonight!

2hrs forward and stick with that would be nice. I'll be hitting the course a couple of evensing a week from now on.
 
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents (RoSPA) want it (they have a lighter evenings campaign). So do most of my gliding and golfing friends. :)

I love the clock going forward and back, it means that in my 9 -5 job I get the best daylight throughout the year. It also means that when the weather is better April - October I get to play golf before work or after work.

Who cares about RoSPA after all it is obviously only about you. ;)
 
Some interesting stuff on the rospa site, but it fails to consider, or subsequently answer, one question.

If the clocks were moved forward, to reduce RTA's, what happens to all the (outside) workers who would be working an extra hour in the dark of a morning?

Sorry but you haven't convinced me that the rospa have a valid argument.

I would suggest that most outside workers, such as builders, would limit their work to daylight hours anyway in the middle of Winter. Previous research has suggested that most people just drive straight to work in the morning and are not fatigued, whereas in the evening they are more likely to make extra journeys for shopping etc, when they may be a bit tired. Hence darker evenings cause more accidents than darker mornings.
 
I would suggest that most outside workers, such as builders, would limit their work to daylight hours anyway in the middle of Winter. Previous research has suggested that most people just drive straight to work in the morning and are not fatigued, whereas in the evening they are more likely to make extra journeys for shopping etc, when they may be a bit tired. Hence darker evenings cause more accidents than darker mornings.


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I love the clock going forward and back, it means that in my 9 -5 job I get the best daylight throughout the year. It also means that when the weather is better April - October I get to play golf before work or after work.

Who cares about RoSPA after all it is obviously only about you. ;)

Gosh, you must be keen if you play golf both before and after work! The 9-5 working day is one of the problems with GMT, because it doesn't line up with daylight hours, which are more like 8-4 in the middle of Winter, especially up North. Apart from anything else, this arrangement wastes quite a lot of energy in heating and lighting for the long dark evenings,
 
..Previous research has suggested that most people just drive straight to work in the morning and are not fatigued, whereas in the evening they are more likely to make extra journeys for shopping etc, when they may be a bit tired. Hence darker evenings cause more accidents than darker mornings.

Er...That's illogical!

Unless you can provide stats that show that accidents are significantly reduced during DST (not just because of the better weather), then it's the extra journeys that cause the greater number of accidents!

And I've seen the numbers on ROSPA,so don't simply repeat those!
 
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Er...That's illogical!

Unless you can provide stats that show that accidents are significantly reduced during DST (not just because of the better weather), then it's the extra journeys that cause the greater number of accidents!

And I've seen the numbers on ROSPA,so don't simply repeat those!

Why is it illogical. There are two extra risk factors. More journeys and driving in darkness. Last time all year round BST was tried, despite the headlines at the time, fewer school children were killed on their journeys to and from school, compared to years when GMT applied.
 
Why is it illogical. There are two extra risk factors. More journeys and driving in darkness. Last time all year round BST was tried, despite the headlines at the time, fewer school children were killed on their journeys to and from school, compared to years when GMT applied.


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Why is it illogical. There are two extra risk factors. More journeys and driving in darkness. Last time all year round BST was tried, despite the headlines at the time, fewer school children were killed on their journeys to and from school, compared to years when GMT applied.

Read my post again! Properly this time!

And don't reply until you can answer the 'question'!
 
Why is it illogical. There are two extra risk factors. More journeys and driving in darkness. Last time all year round BST was tried, despite the headlines at the time, fewer school children were killed on their journeys to and from school, compared to years when GMT applied.

Its illogical because if you take hours from the front end of the day to the back end of the day it'll mean outside workers will work in the dark for longer, increasing the accidents in that group.

You're latching on to traffic accidents and not looking at the whole picture. Come back with stats for that demographic too to balance your argument and then it'll be worth listening to until then your argument is way too narrow.
 
It is for my two girls! First night of the year when they have to start preparing for bed when it's light out! 😄😄😄

Good luck with that tonight. However in the main, the sun came up and the birds were in the trees and it was normal. The same will happen the day after they change back. I really don't see how one man can have such issues about it
 
Its illogical because if you take hours from the front end of the day to the back end of the day it'll mean outside workers will work in the dark for longer, increasing the accidents in that group.

You're latching on to traffic accidents and not looking at the whole picture. Come back with stats for that demographic too to balance your argument and then it'll be worth listening to until then your argument is way too narrow.
I have already answered the point about outside workers in post #63!
 
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I have already answered the point about outside workers in post #63!

Builders?! Maybe you need to get out more and see how many roads are built inside. Surely you've seen all the cones out on the M25 and M1? I wonder how many farmers keep their cattle and sheep in the kitchen? Do the bin men, who travel the dangerous roads you speak of, only work in the summer? Seriously, is that what you think is a viable answer?

Take a step back and look at your answer, and then think of all the outside workers there are that have no inside work.... Sorry, must dash... There's a rail worker putting rail through our patio doors.

C'mon Delc. When the detail of your proposals are drilled down on they're pretty flawed. How is what's right in Jan isn't right in Feb and then Feb isn't right for March? If you're going to propose something, at least make it radical enough to be worth consideration.
 
Builders?! Maybe you need to get out more and see how many roads are built inside. Surely you've seen all the cones out on the M25 and M1? I wonder how many farmers keep their cattle and sheep in the kitchen? Do the bin men, who travel the dangerous roads you speak of, only work in the summer? Seriously, is that what you think is a viable answer?

Take a step back and look at your answer, and then think of all the outside workers there are that have no inside work.... Sorry, must dash... There's a rail worker putting rail through our patio doors.

C'mon Delc. When the detail of your proposals are drilled down on they're pretty flawed. How is what's right in Jan isn't right in Feb and then Feb isn't right for March? If you're going to propose something, at least make it radical enough to be worth consideration.
We had mobile gangs looking after water mains and sewers when I worked for a water company. As a Chemist I often went out to test the air for them. If the work was at night they had floodlights so they could see what they were doing and work safely. It's not rocket science!
 
We had mobile gangs looking after water mains and sewers when I worked for a water company. As a Chemist I often went out to test the air for them. If the work was at night they had floodlights so they could see what they were doing and work safely. It's not rocket science!

all anecdotal rubbish as usual! How many outside workers have floodlights and, to repeat, where's your stats to support your argument?

But its you who went out to test the air for a water company...? A chemist tested the air? BT workers had their own sniffers when lifting a manhole...? A chemist, on their wages, went and sniffed the air for H2S and methane etc when a tech can do it with a handheld and probe? Mmm, seriously?
 

Same old, same old. Look at it another way, plenty of time to play and practice after work again now

Please no Paul - we have been through all this before twice a year. Delc is only concerned about being able to play golf for longer in the winter.

Or more importantly do we care?

I think the wave of apathy on here and when it was polled before show it's just you again. Why keep banging on and on. The majority seem perfectly happy and it ain't going to change any time soon (well technically tonight) so what's the point of going on and on about it?


So not many then :thup:

Just like your other broken record subjects - its not going to change - accept it - move on.



Well the clocks changed and it wasn't the end of the world as we know it. What a surprise.

Good luck with that tonight. However in the main, the sun came up and the birds were in the trees and it was normal. The same will happen the day after they change back. I really don't see how one man can have such issues about it

For two people who seem to not care you haven't half posted a lot on this thread and that's just a selection of your posts and not them all......

Do we all really have to be subjected to you two trying to outpost each other on every thread?
 
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