City of Liverpool FC.

[Deleted member 16999]

I haven't before and I'm not going to try and convince you that there's nowhere else they can go. But I don't think you'll see Marine FCs or Prescot Cables gates drop if another team is formed just as Stalybridge and Hydes gates haven't dropped since FC united.

You seem to think that another club would have a detrimental effect on local non league football..

Since FC united's formation 10 years ago they've had gates of over 6000 and averaged around 2000 for home games and if Theres no game on at a weekend or if its a distant away game a lot of the fans will go and watch another non league team in the area who are at home, boosting attendances and putting money in the coffers.I do this myself quite often. I've watched Salford and Chorley many times in the last 10 years.
Not to mention the amount of ££ the other teams are taking through the gate when they're playing FC United at home, This alone is helping local clubs to develop and budget confidently for the following season.

I can only think that if a similar club in Liverpool were to be formed and established it would only promote and benefit non league locally in and around Liverpool.

It could take off but it probably won't, but personally I hope it does..

FC United were formed at the right time and in the right circumstances and brought fans with them, I'm not against United FC I'm all for it, but why aren't these fans looking to form new clubs being asked what's wrong with the present non-league, non premeiership clubs.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

No mention on here of a comparison of City's season tickets. Ave bought one but am disgruntled and I told City so.
they have just extended and now have the third largest stadium in England ( 2nd largest council house) anyway there was a big song and dance about being able to buy £299 seats. Really, I don't think any new season ticket holders got one. With previous holders having first dibs they all went and rightly so.
But the hike to the next half decent seats was twice as much. The jump was/is too much for some.
some current season ticket holders were moved from there seats so a super match day experience for supporters area was created. At over £900 per season ticket.
think me club is losing its identity with the fans.

I posted prices of a few clubs, the onesthat made it easy to find pricing. If they were not obvious I gave up and went to another club. City's took more than 20 seconds so I gave up.

It is a shame to hear about City as that was a real supporters club. Fans of City are usually locals and it is a poor part of Manchester. I hope they don't lose their identity too much as City fans have always been funny and self depreciating. If that was lost then it would be a shame.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Yes my Mrs and son are in the membership scheme and very rarely get a home game but do go to the cup games, like you say think they pay £30 a year each.

It stinks mate, they're all about "rewarding loyalty" but all's it does is make it a closed shop for the people who have had their membership since the beginning.

All fans should have access to buy tickets, not have to join a scheme where they'll end up with a ticket for a league cup game against Northampton.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Tickets prices are a joke across the board. A club selling out a 50k stadium at £40 a ticket would still only earn around half of what they get through sky money. This is where clubs in Germany excel. They don't consider ticket money as a main financial stream and would rather fill a stadium with passionate fans than corporates.

The German model is an unfair comparison as the stadiums are locally owned by local councils and governments and the club's pay no bills etc towards the stadium so they don't have upkeep to pay for - that's a big reason why the ticket prices are smaller in Germany.

 

[Pin-seeker]

I'm surprised by some of the posts on this thread,I was under the impression that Liverpool football club was a club with great intregity & character.
Turns out they're just like every other club.

 

[Qwerty]

I was under the impression that Liverpool football club was a club with great intregity & character.
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Why would you let a thread on an internet Golf Forum convince you otherwise..

 

[Tashyboy]

I posted prices of a few clubs, the onesthat made it easy to find pricing. If they were not obvious I gave up and went to another club. City's took more than 20 seconds so I gave up.

It is a shame to hear about City as that was a real supporters club. Fans of City are usually locals and it is a poor part of Manchester. I hope they don't lose their identity too much as City fans have always been funny and self depreciating. If that was lost then it would be a shame.

Thats one of the reasons I go into Mary Dees pub before the game. Full of old uns that followed city through the lean years. Some of the songs are pure genius.
plus the chippy next door is to die for. still remember when me dad who's now 79 had two meat pies before the game from there and bought another after the game.

i think football is changing too quick for the common/average supporter.

 

[Liverbirdie]

The German model is an unfair comparison as the stadiums are locally owned by local councils and governments and the club's pay no bills etc towards the stadium so they don't have upkeep to pay for - that's a big reason why the ticket prices are smaller in Germany.

You may be right on the ownership/stadium situation Phil, but overall I think that the reason for the ticket prices in Germany being cheaper is due to them having a different ethos to us.

Our clubs are privately run and are mainly owned by international businessmen who are now only in it for the money, apart from the sugar daddies. In Germany I think they are mainly supporter owned.

I hadn't heard of the team Qwerty mentioned until reading this post, so surprised actually, as I also read the echo website 3-4 times a day, so surprised it hasnt been covered.

FYI AFC LIverpool was formed a few years after FC United, with a similar ethos, but not as a protest. http://www.afcliverpool.tv/

Their ethos:-

AFC Liverpool is an independent football club that was set up in 2008 by Liverpool fans who were priced out of top flight football. The club is owned by the fans and run by the fans. Anyone can become a member and have an equal vote on how the club develops. One member, one vote.
AFC Liverpool is a genuine, not for profit football club, so all the revenue generated stays within the club and doesn’t line the pockets of a multi-millionaire owner.
Although the club is run by fans, the Society Board has been carefully picked and voted for by the members to include many professionals in their respective fields, so there is nothing amateurish about the make up of the club.
AFC Liverpool is run as a professional organisation with big ambitions, both on and off the pitch but always puts the fans first.
It is aimed especially at those Liverpool fans, who for whatever reason, are not attending Premier League football, be they priced out or just unable to get tickets.
We currently play in the North West Counties League Premier Division, five promotions from the Football League.
Is It Against Liverpool FC?
No. Quite the opposite. It draws it’s support base from Liverpool fans. AFC Liverpool fans still support Liverpool and those who can, will still go to Anfield to support the Reds. AFC Liverpool is here to provide a match going experience for all those who currently do not have football in their lives due to the rising costs involved.
Why Bother?
Because thousands of Reds can’t get to games anymore, either because it is difficult to get tickets or because they can’t afford them. The average age of a Premier League fan is 43, so we need a way to get kids hooked into experiencing football at an actual match, and there is no better surrounding than passionate LFC supporters.
Remember – this is not an attack on LFC or a rejection of LFC. It is here for the many thousands of Reds priced out of Premier League football. We believe that football should not be a TV show and exclusive to those who can afford it.
Football is the worlds game; it should be run for the people, by the people and affordable to all.

Liverpool FC have even advised their latest scores at half time, and given some publicity in the programme or on the website, so a different relationship with them compared to Man U/FC United.

Given the choice - if all the premiership clubs went bust tomorrow and re-formed with mainly fan ownerships, I would be a very happy man.

Max wages £10,000 per week for players and a whole re-working of the game couldnt come quick enough for me.

 

[Qwerty]

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[Deleted member 16999]

Cheers for sharing :thup:

 

[HomerJSimpson]

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Brilliant. It's a perfect role model and I think there will be other clubs in the next few years popping up with a similar objective

 

[GregKael]

In Germany I think they are mainly supporter owned.

Yes, the current Bundesliga rules state that clubs must essentially be 51% controlled by fans/fan groups etc. But it still has it's problems and loopholes such as RB Leipzig.
More details here - https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/...ules-50-1-fifty-plus-one-explained-466583.jsp

 

[Crazyface]

If you don't like it don't go, simple. I have a, fading, liking for City, as has been said their fans are proper funny, but since the PL was formed and money and foreign players came in, I now hate it all.

PS I still buy the odd City top when I find it in my local Nike outlet place. Last one bought cost me a fiver!!!!! I like the colour as well. :thup:

 

[Duckster]

Decent atmosphere there which can be quite intimidating for most clubs as the other teams simply don't get the size crowds that the Purps get. Always one of our biggest games of the year, didn't enjoy losing twice to them last season, but only finished 4 points behind them in the league. Not bad for a small village side.