China

[Crazyface]

After all this mither we've had to endure I decided two months ago to not buy ANYTHING made in China, and now with what they are doing in Hong Kong. Yes I know this is going to be incredibly difficult but I think that at least I won't be promoting anything to do with them.

 

[USER1999]

After all this mither we've had to endure I decided two months ago to not buy ANYTHING made in China, and now with what they are doing in Hong Kong. Yes I know this is going to be incredibly difficult but I think that at least I won't be promoting anything to do with them.

You won't be buying new golf clubs for a while then.

 

[Kellfire]

If everyone did this we’d ultimately end up hurting the general public there, not so much those at the top who dictate policy.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

If everyone did this we’d ultimately end up hurting the general public there, not so much those at the top who dictate policy.

I'm not sure the general public in China cared about workers here when jobs were lost to cheap Chinese labour.

 

[Bdill93]

Good luck... you've probably posted that using a device made in china though They just make everything!

 

[Orikoru]

Alright, Donald.

 

[Bdill93]

Alright, Donald.

Actual tears of laughter at this

 

[Rooter]

Wow! really??!

you know a large part of the infrastructure used to make this forum work would have been made in china.

The only way you could do this, would be to go live in the woods with no phone, TV, internet... Ahhh Bliss!!

 

[User62651]

I'm not sure the general public in China cared about workers here when jobs were lost to cheap Chinese labour.

Rather than lay blame with the Chinese people, we're hardly bastions of honour or morals ourselves. British Companies outsourced and still outsource potential British jobs because it saves them money, so they screwed the Briitish workers for profits (or to avoid going under). Government offered no tarriff protections, let the global market forces run free. Thatcher did it with nationalised coal mining and steel - shut down and import cheaper no matter the misery for those made redundant. Maybe it needed doing but I dont think we blamed Polish miners or German steelworkers for that. British also exploited the commonwealth peoples for our benefit, wealth and power for 100+ years. Did we give a stuff about peoples there?
Chinese will be the world's largest economy soon enough, we might not like it but we'll have to accept, that with that, they'll call the shots.
Our hangover of Empire and past glories lingers on.

 

[IanM]

Serious breach of the generic forum code 716/12

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Rather than lay blame with the Chinese people, we're hardly bastions of honour or morals ourselves. British Companies outsourced and still outsource potential British jobs because it saves them money, so they screwed the Briitish workers for profits (or to avoid going under). Government offered no tarriff protections, let the global market forces run free. Thatcher did it with nationalised coal mining and steel - shut down and import cheaper no matter the misery for those made redundant. Maybe it needed doing but I dont think we blamed Polish miners or German steelworkers for that. British also exploited the commonwealth peoples for our benefit, wealth and power for 100+ years. Did we give a stuff about peoples there?
Chinese will be the world's largest economy soon enough, we might not like it but we'll have to accept, that with that, they'll call the shots.
Our hangover of Empire and past glories lingers on.

The public are complicit for chasing cheaper and cheaper products. Firms are complicit for chasing cheap costs. Govt is complicit as it chases lower inflation rates.

My reply was purely aimed at the post suggesting we should feel sorry for Chinese workers if Crazyfaces boycott hits hard.

They will only keep calling the shots if we keep chasing their cheaply made products. Stop chasing them and their influence wanes.

 

[SocketRocket]

Rather than lay blame with the Chinese people, we're hardly bastions of honour or morals ourselves. British Companies outsourced and still outsource potential British jobs because it saves them money, so they screwed the Briitish workers for profits (or to avoid going under). Government offered no tarriff protections, let the global market forces run free. Thatcher did it with nationalised coal mining and steel - shut down and import cheaper no matter the misery for those made redundant. Maybe it needed doing but I dont think we blamed Polish miners or German steelworkers for that. British also exploited the commonwealth peoples for our benefit, wealth and power for 100+ years. Did we give a stuff about peoples there?
Chinese will be the world's largest economy soon enough, we might not like it but we'll have to accept, that with that, they'll call the shots.
Our hangover of Empire and past glories lingers on.

We gave away the rights to control tariffs and state subsidies when we joined the EU. I tend to remember a lot of criticism of us importing Polish coal at the time our pits were closed.
Yes China holds a lot of cloat in the World, too much and we should be looking along with the western World to minimise their influence on our lives. A fool knows the cost of everything but the values of nothing.

 

[Junior]

It's not just China, it's the globalisation of Chinese business (the largest of which are state owned). Don't forget they own a large portion of the US Debt.

Another example is that 80% of the investment in Africa today is by the Chinese. Mineral mines, precious metal mines and oil fields all across Africa have significant Chinese investment.

When I was in SA at the end of last year talking with representatives from all over Africa they told me that their children are learning Chinease in primary schools. They used to want to send their children to University in Europe or the USA......now they want to go to China.

We think and plan for 5/10/15 years economically, the Chinease plan for 50. Like it or not, China will become an even stronger economic superpower and it'll be difficult to implement any sort of embargo against them.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I have long preferred to buy things not made in China, but it is almost impossible.
It just annoys me that we insist on getting things as cheap as possible regardless of the implications long term.

I also found the film American Factory a very good watch for an insight into the Chinese mentality.

 

[SocketRocket]

It's not just China, it's the globalisation of Chinese business (the largest of which are state owned). Don't forget they own a large portion of the US Debt.

Another example is that 80% of the investment in Africa today is by the Chinese. Mineral mines, precious metal mines and oil fields all across Africa have significant Chinese investment.

When I was in SA at the end of last year talking with representatives from all over Africa they told me that their children are learning Chinease in primary schools. They used to want to send their children to University in Europe or the USA......now they want to go to China.

We think and plan for 5/10/15 years economically, the Chinease plan for 50. Like it or not, China will become an even stronger economic superpower and it'll be difficult to implement any sort of embargo against them.

Many of China's brightest go to UK Universities. We can and should do as much as possible to create a policy of 'self sufficiency' relying on cheap Chineese products is dangerous, ultimately you save a penny and invite a tyrant into your house.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/openeconomy/globalisation-and-self-sufficiency

 

[Foxholer]

Many of China's brightest go to UK Universities...

And even more go to US ones!

Somewhere around 100k Chinese students in UK; Somewhere around 360K at US ones (2017/18 figures)!

I certainly agree that 'reliance' on cheap Chinese products is bad, but 'price' is pretty much the primary consideration of UK's economic environment - has always been and, I believe, always will be.

 

[Hacker Khan]

I'm starting by boycotting spring rolls for the next month. I'll then consider escalating my protest if that does not have the intended impact. Take that Xi Jinping.

 

[MegaSteve]

As a protest I've not had a Chinese takeaway this year and probably won't again anytime soon...

In all seriousness Chinese business community have no morals whatsoever...

 

[DanFST]

In all seriousness Chinese business community have no morals whatsoever...

Polite way of putting it.

It all comes from the top, and it's a complete fustercluck.

 

[Rooter]

I'm starting by boycotting spring rolls for the next month. I'll then consider escalating my protest if that does not have the intended impact. Take that Xi Jinping.

I'll stand with you brother. No more sesame prawn toast for me! take that you commi bar stewards!

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Can we make an exception for sweet and sour king prawns Hong Kong style?