Children of America

[Ye Olde Boomer]

And yet you espouse the carrying of firearms, in the 21st Century.

I don't espouse the carrying of firearms in the 21st Century,
I oppose the abolition of private firearms ownership in the 21st Century,
Let's not overlook nuance.
By the way, I don't keep a pistol in my golf bag.
Al Capone did.
As I said, we're all different.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I don't espouse the carrying of firearms in the 21st Century,
I oppose the abolition of private firearms ownership in the 21st Century,
Let's not overlook nuance.
By the way, I don't keep a pistol in my golf bag.
Al Capone did.
As I said, we're all different.

Why does a person own 8 different guns ?!

If the “right to bear arms” is about protecting yourself why have 8 ?

Even more so when that person who has 8 guns doesn’t shoot ?!

I don't shoot at all. I love animals and can force myself to tolerate people, especially if they play golf.
I just believe in the right to bear arms.

So you have 8 items that can kill people just because you believe in the right to bear arms - and that’s why there is the level of gun crime in the US

 

[Hobbit]

I wouldn't have any knowledge about why your government thinks that it's OK to prevent you from hunting (even if it's elsewhere in the world), target shooting, or even defending yourself.
Mind you, I have tremendous respect for the United Kingdom, but people don't agree on everything.
To me, though, it is indeed a flagrant assault on your civil liberties. Maybe it's because I've been raised in America.

People in New York City, by the way, have very serious municipal restrictions on hand gun ownership. You have to have a permit, and there's no promise of getting it.
The criminals with guns are just that-criminals--and their possession of their guns is in itself criminal...under current law.

And therein lies the problem that people don't want to discuss.

Guns are inanimate objects. It's the people who are dangerous,

In America, where there is no universal healthcare,
no universal access to education,
no jobs for people displaced from their employment by new technology or the global economy,
where racism, xenophobia, misogyny, homophobia, religious fervor, and all the other human shortcomings are so widespread

that a despicable cretin like Donald Trump can be elected president,

people are going to be scared, angry, and violent.

That--and not our gun laws--is the reason for our widespread violence.

The UK govt doesn't prevent us from hunting, either in the UK or abroad. I've hunted several times in the UK, and an ex-work colleague(I'm retired) has hunted around the world. For me, it was with shotguns. For my friend it was shot guns, rifles(both smooth bore, black powder and rifled). He still shots pretty much every weekend.

I don't feel that the greater restrictions than you experience is an assault on my civil liberties. I just see it as a law protecting me from excessive gun ownership. Simple maths, less guns = less danger.

Edit; by the way I only shot what I could put on the kitchen table. Killing animals for fun just isn't right. If it wasn't going to be eaten, it wasn't shot and if it wasn't a clear/clean shot it wasn't shot.

 

[chrisd]

I don't espouse the carrying of firearms in the 21st Century,
I oppose the abolition of private firearms ownership in the 21st Century,
Let's not overlook nuance.
By the way, I don't keep a pistol in my golf bag.
Al Capone did.
As I said, we're all different.

I dare say with the handicap of being one of America's most wanted he'd carry a gun as he'd want a shot at each hole

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I don't espouse the carrying of firearms in the 21st Century,
I oppose the abolition of private firearms ownership in the 21st Century,
Let's not overlook nuance.
By the way, I don't keep a pistol in my golf bag.
Al Capone did.
As I said, we're all different.

Ahhhh I misunderstood... I thought America had become a forgiving and kind country, concerned about others and accepting of an apology, claiming the death caused was a "terrible accident"..... Well thats the impression I get from your drivers over here......

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

Why does a person own 8 different guns ?!

If the “right to bear arms” is about protecting yourself why have 8 ?

Even more so when that person who has 8 guns doesn’t shoot ?!



So you have 8 items that can kill people just because you believe in the right to bear arms - and that’s why there is the level of gun crime in the US

All eight are for different kinds of shooting sports except for the Walther PPK which is a small, self-defense weapon. I don't own a military style assault weapon and don't believe that that kind of weapon should be privately owned. We did ban them, but then a more conservative government repealed that ban.

I enjoyed them whan I was younger. Now they're just part of my estate when I die. The kids will do with them what they wish, but since they're worth thousands of dollars, I'm sure they'll sell them in a safe and lawful way. My daughter's a cop with her own gun (even though she has a desk job) and no interest in shooting sports. My son got his fill of firearms while he was in the army.

 

[Ye Olde Boomer]

Edit; by the way I only shot what I could put on the kitchen table. Killing animals for fun just isn't right. If it wasn't going to be eaten, it wasn't shot and if it wasn't a clear/clean shot it wasn't shot.

Not being a vegitarian, I have no criticism of people who eat what they hunt, even though I don't like doing my own "wet work." I could never be a livestock rancher. Every steer would have a name and become a pet. As badly as I get on with other humans, that's how much I love animals.

Trophy hunters like Trump's two moron adult sons make me sick, though. That's mere bloodlust, and I keep hoping for a misfire that results in they themselves becoming a meal.