Changes in elevation - club selection

[delc]

If I go to the club for 9 holes after work who cares if I use a laser with a slope function?

I think that's what he was saying, not that they were legal for comps.

I would not spend several hundred Pounds on a rangefinder I could only use for friendly games!

 

[Region3]

I would not spend several hundred Pounds on a rangefinder I could only use for friendly games!

I can understand that, but that's not what quoting a rule was implying

 

[Deleted member 15717]

I would not spend several hundred Pounds on a rangefinder I could only use for friendly games!

The joy of the bushnell. You can remove the slope attachment for comps

 

[Tiger]

To be fair you only need to use the slope for friendly rounds at your home course to give you knowledge you can then apply in competitive rounds without the device...

 

[Tiger]

[video=youtube;Rcy3dTzN5gM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rcy3dTzN5gM[/video]

Thanks for posting. Doing the maths on this example this works out as about 1ft to 1ft. Cheers guys 👍

 

[3565]

I have 2, ordinary 1500 and a slope bushnell, which comes in handy for practise rounds on hilly courses that I'm playing a comp at.

 

[Tiger]

I have 2, ordinary 1500 and a slope bushnell, which comes in handy for practise rounds on hilly courses that I'm playing a comp at.

Do you find elevation change consistent in terms of x slope = y yardage change?

 

[guest100718]

more club uphill, less club down, but not as much less as you would for up......

 

[jpxpro]

if wind isn't in the equation i can use a full 6 iron on the par3 6th 191 yards at my course, i also use a full 6 on the 160 yard par 3 8th

my average 6 iron goes about 170 yards

the 6th is a massive downhill, the 8th is a moderate uphill

 

[patricks148]

get a range finder wih slope and find out

 

[3565]

Do you find elevation change consistent in terms of x slope = y yardage change?

Yeah it's accurate. Not much use on my course as we've not got much elevation, most is +4 yds so really doesn't warrant it. But Courses with severe elevation it's very useful and just use the club that you hit for the slope factored number.

 

[patricks148]

Hmmm interesting. I know when I chip around the green my coach has told me to use a stronger loft if the ball will land below my feet because it will roll less...

I was guessing maybe a yard per yard so will try and use that next time I play. Delc on the laser thing though they are illegal in comps they aren't for general play so wondered if anyone had one/used one in friendly knocks.

Cheers one and all

got one a couple of weeks ago and used the slope a few times in bounce games, we have two holes that make a diff one is 18 yards the other about 5.

thing ive found though is no diff down hill

 

[Ethan]

Thanks for posting. Doing the maths on this example this works out as about 1ft to 1ft. Cheers guys 👍

So you mean if you are playing to a green 30 feet above you, you will take just one extra club? Good luck with that.

 

[Tiger]

So you mean if you are playing to a green 30 feet above you, you will take just one extra club? Good luck with that.

Hmmm good point. The example was a downhill shot...

I had a shot to an uphill green today. 120 yards and clipped a choked down 7 iron and not full swing came up 10 yards short

Based on your example what would you do?

 

[the_coach]

the 1ft to 1ft ratio is more just a fairly accurate approximation if the landing angle is 45º

there's a bunch of stuff that plays into landing angle - for instance with shot to green some distance below the green the ball will be airbourne longer so likely the landing angle will be bunch more than 45º the longer it falls the steeper it will approach the ground so little roll out - the opposite will be true for an uphill lie the angle likely less than 45º so will come in much flatter and generally roll out a fair ways more than a similar distance downhill slope shot

with uphill/downhill slopes and sidehill slopes big consideration should be around being able to maintain balance through the shot for solid contacts

better for sure whatever club selected that it is selected both around the height difference (uphill/downhill) but also with a swing motion in mind that is not flat out swing effort as likely balance so contact is going to be compromised

http://blog.trackmangolf.com/ups-downs-trackman-university/

 

[Tiger]

Thank you that was exactly what I was after. Great video 👍👍👍

 

[Ethan]

the 1ft to 1ft ratio is more just a fairly accurate approximation if the landing angle is 45º

there's a bunch of stuff that plays into landing angle - for instance with shot to green some distance below the green the ball will be airbourne longer so likely the landing angle will be bunch more than 45º the longer it falls the steeper it will approach the ground so little roll out - the opposite will be true for an uphill lie the angle likely less than 45º so will come in much flatter and generally roll out a fair ways more than a similar distance downhill slope shot

with uphill/downhill slopes and sidehill slopes big consideration should be around being able to maintain balance through the shot for solid contacts

better for sure whatever club selected that it is selected both around the height difference (uphill/downhill) but also with a swing motion in mind that is not flat out swing effort as likely balance so contact is going to be compromised

http://blog.trackmangolf.com/ups-downs-trackman-university/

Not only the landing angle but the angle of the entire section above or below the level where the shot was hit. The ball won't maintain the same angle for long. If you hit a wedge to a sharply downhill gteen, there is a point where additional drop makes little difference as the ball is falling pretty much vertically.