Championship Manager 2001/02

[Orikoru]

Dinamo Minsk and Gouveia aren't even listed as teams

Out of interest, what is Attribute Masking when you start a new game and what is the difference if you don't choose real players?

Hang on, you didn't select real players?? That would explain a lot! Attribute masking means you can't see their stats unless you get a scout report on them. I have it turned it off so I can see all the stats straight away. Just saves time really, but it adds realism to have att masking on I guess.

You must have gone with small database if Minsk and Gouveia aren't there. Otherwise this doesn't make any sense.

 

[Beezerk]

Yes I did select real players, I was wondering how choosing the other option changes the game.
I did a fresh install with max database, I found that Tsiliski or whatever he’s called by clicking on Minsk from another player so I could see their full squad, I’m confused why he didn’t show up in the full player list.
Still no sign of Madeira and his team lol.
Started with Sheff We’d again, I had 4.5m to spend last time but now I only have 145k 😂 this game is mental.

 

[Orikoru]

Yes I did select real players, I was wondering how choosing the other option changes the game.
I did a fresh install with max database, I found that Tsiliski or whatever he’s called by clicking on Minsk from another player so I could see their full squad, I’m confused why he didn’t show up in the full player list.
Still no sign of Madeira and his team lol.
Started with Sheff We’d again, I had 4.5m to spend last time but now I only have 145k 😂 this game is mental.

I dunno what you're doing but you're confusing the hell out of me. To Madeira should pretty much always be there since he's probably the most famous CM legend there is. (The story goes he was not actually a real life player, but slipped in by a rogue developer to replicate the career he never had!)

According to this guide (below) you should only have about 140k, so maybe you did something wrong the first time. Were you playing the right game?? lol
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/563063-championship-manager-season-01-02/faqs/18827

 

[Dan2501]

First season finished 12th, so not bad in the end. Made some solid signings in the summer so far bringing in:

Radoslaw Kaluzny
Gary Speed
Steve Finnan
Cherno Samba

and the the big one, the money signing, £16m spent on Zlatan Ibrahimovic He smashed in 2 goals on debut as well, so a very solid start. Not been the best start to the 2nd season, was looking rosey after starting it with a 3-1 win over United but since lost 2 and drawn one. Defensively the team are still absolutely shocking despite having 4 decent defenders (Duff, Risp, West and Victory), a DMC (Said) and another DMC (Kaluzny) playing CM. Need to try and figure it out!

 

[Beezerk]

I dunno what you're doing but you're confusing the hell out of me. To Madeira should pretty much always be there since he's probably the most famous CM legend there is. (The story goes he was not actually a real life player, but slipped in by a rogue developer to replicate the career he never had!)

According to this guide (below) you should only have about 140k, so maybe you did something wrong the first time. Were you playing the right game?? lol
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/563063-championship-manager-season-01-02/faqs/18827

Ha ha I installed an update or summat and I suddenly got about 4.5m so I just kept going with that 😂
I may finally start a proper season some time soon.

 

[Dan2501]

Started a 2nd save as Juve and this really is prime Serie A. So much depth in quality across the league, it's insane, particularly going forward. I've got Del Piero, Trezeguet and Salas. Roma have Batistuta, Montella and Totti. Inter have R9, prime Christian Vieri and Adriano. Milan have a 24 year old Shevchenko, Flippo Inzaghi and Rui Costa. Lazio have prime Crespo. Then across the league you've got players like Davids, Thuram, Nedved, Cafu, Mendieta, Buffon, Maldini, Cannavaro, Seedorf, Zanetti, Nesta, Nakata, Simeone, Samuel, Pirlo, the league is absolutely stacked full of talent. Should be a fun little save. Would love to bring R9 Ronaldo to Juve, what a partnership him and Del Piero could create.

I've made a few signings to boost the squad. It's a bit thin on wing-backs, so bought in old faithful Mike Duff at RB. Then also added Ibrahim Said, picked up Guardiola and Paiva on frees and then bought in Mark Kerr for £1.5m. Tried to go for a few big names like Patrick Vieira and made a move for Boca Juniors star centre half Nicolas Burdisso but had no joy with either. Burdisso looks insane. He's only 20 years old and already has 20 tackling, 20 marking, 20 positioning, definitely not the quickest but he can seriously defend. Would be perfect alongside the tank Lillian Thuram.

Playing a 4-1-3-2 which lines up like:

----------------------Buffon-------------------
-Zambrotta---Thuram----Montero---Pessotto
----------------------Davids----------------------
-----------Kerr------Guardiola----Nedved-------
---------------Del Piero---Trezeguet--------------

Heck of a team. Do need another world class centre half - either Burdisso or eventually Cannavaro, and need to improve the wing backs - would love Roberto Carlos at LB - but is a heck of a team. The top 2 with a 26 year old prime Marcelo Salas as back-up is ludicrously strong. Great shout putting this thread together @Orikoru - loving being back into CM 01/02, can't beat a bit of nostalgia.

 

[Beezerk]

It’s official, I’m stupid!
I didn’t even notice the “find” button which lets you search for every player on the planet 🤭😂
Is there a workaround for the work permit thing? Agreed terms with loads of bargains only for the deal to fall through eventually.

 

[Orikoru]

It’s official, I’m stupid!
I didn’t even notice the “find” button which lets you search for every player on the planet 🤭😂
Is there a workaround for the work permit thing? Agreed terms with loads of bargains only for the deal to fall through eventually.

No, that's the ball ache of managing an English club on this game. Any non-EU player who doesn't have a whole bunch of international caps won't get a WP. I've missed out on several great strikers already thanks to this.

Heck of a team. Do need another world class centre half - either Burdisso or eventually Cannavaro, and need to improve the wing backs - would love Roberto Carlos at LB - but is a heck of a team. The top 2 with a 26 year old prime Marcelo Salas as back-up is ludicrously strong. Great shout putting this thread together @Orikoru - loving being back into CM 01/02, can't beat a bit of nostalgia.

Ha, yeah, they don't make them like they used to. I already know what my next save is going to be. I noticed that Sassuolo - Serie A in real life nowadays - are languishing in Serie C2 and in debt on this game, so I'm going to try and bring them up to Serie A just as they did in real life.

I want to win a trophy with my Wigan team first though. If anything the game is getting a bit easy - we just got Premier League Watford in the FA Cup (we're still top of division one) and we were 6-1 up by half time! Ridiculous. Not sure what happened there lol. No further goals in the second half of course so 6-1 was how it stayed.

 

[Beezerk]

Whooop so I got promoted to the Premiership with the super Owls, I did have a bit of help, I updated the game to version 3.9.68 and it gave me £4.5 million, Saying that prices seemed a bit higher and I only bought a few players. Was top of the league for a long time but ended badly and scraped through on goal difference
Bought Moukoko and McPhee at the end of the season but I cannot get N'Diaye, Tsigalko and a few others due to work permit problems.
My current team is 4-1-3-2...
GK Pinheiro
DL Victory
DR Corneliusson
DC West
DC Duff
(also have Risp as DC, who is best?)
DM Crane (young lad I promoted from the reserves)
MCL Walshe
MCR Bkirkioglu
MC Moukoko
FC McPhee
FC Corazzin

Also got Samba but he's done sod all so far, when does he start to bloom?
Remainder of the squad is the rest of the old Sheff Wed team.
I've got £21M to spend now, I'm thinking I need at least a decent DCM and maybe another keeper. Any other thoughts on my lineup and shopping list?

 

[Orikoru]

Duff isn't a centre back is he? Is that Mike Duff from Cheltenham? That must be different because of the update, my Mike Duff is a D/DM R.

Ibrahim Said was always known as a quality D/DM C I think. Maybe look at him to play defensive mid.

That was a horrible attempt at spelling Bakircioglü.

 

[Beezerk]

So where is Duffs best position?
That bloody Man City stole Bakirwhateveryoucallhim 🤣 from me, I didn't realise there was a release clause in his contract ffs.
I've signed Palacios but other players like Quaresma etc always reject my contract offers.

 

[Orikoru]

So where is Duffs best position?
That bloody Man City stole Bakirwhateveryoucallhim 🤣 from me, I didn't realise there was a release clause in his contract ffs.
I've signed Palacios but other players like Quaresma etc always reject my contract offers.

I'm saying in my game Duff is only a right back so his best position is his only position. I've no idea what he's like at CB on your database. Is he a DR/C then? I seem to remember his positioning wasn't that high so if his stats are the same he's probably still better at RB.

Haha, you gotta watch those clauses. I negotiated for ages with Bakircioglü because I tried taking out the release clause, he declined, then I set it to like 10 mil, he declined, eventually I set it to about 6 mil and he agreed. I'm sure his value will be approaching that soon though so I'll have to give him another new contract to take it out or set it higher.

I secured the Division One title, with 7 games still to play. I'm 19 points clear of Derby with a game in hand. Premier League here we come! Leeds just won the Prem in my game, so apparently they're just giving it away. The legend that is Tó Madeira scored his 50th goal for the club as well.

 

[Dan2501]

Have to say, I'm really struggling with CM01/02, even as Juve. I've had a few great results, like a 4-1 win over league leaders Inter but we're so inconsistent. Defensively awful and even with Nedved, Del Piero, Trezeguet and Salas we're not scoring enough goals. I've experimented with tactics but just can't get one working properly. I tried a 4-3-3 with a flat 3 in midfield and 3 strikers, I tried a 4-1-3-2, and a 4-1-2-1-2 but just can't seem to get it working on a consistent basis, it's really frustrating. I've been knocked out of the CL Group stage on head-to-head, and honestly could end up getting sacked. I brought in Roberto Ayala for big money to try and sure up the defence, and was thinking Buffon, Thuram and Ayala with Davids sat in-front would be unreal but leaking goals like nobodies business. Just praying I can turn the form around and survive the season but not looking great right now.

 

[Orikoru]

Have to say, I'm really struggling with CM01/02, even as Juve. I've had a few great results, like a 4-1 win over league leaders Inter but we're so inconsistent. Defensively awful and even with Nedved, Del Piero, Trezeguet and Salas we're not scoring enough goals. I've experimented with tactics but just can't get one working properly. I tried a 4-3-3 with a flat 3 in midfield and 3 strikers, I tried a 4-1-3-2, and a 4-1-2-1-2 but just can't seem to get it working on a consistent basis, it's really frustrating. I've been knocked out of the CL Group stage on head-to-head, and honestly could end up getting sacked. I brought in Roberto Ayala for big money to try and sure up the defence, and was thinking Buffon, Thuram and Ayala with Davids sat in-front would be unreal but leaking goals like nobodies business. Just praying I can turn the form around and survive the season but not looking great right now.

When I went up to Division One I lost a couple of away games, so I developed a different tactic for away games to the one I use on home games. Stuck with it all season and it worked perfectly. At home I use 4-1-2-1-2 (all narrow) with the full backs, MCs and AMC moving forwards, with attacking mentality, short passing, pressing & offsides on, and hard tackling. For away games though I've dragged the AMC back one so it's a 4-1-3-2, and I change passing from short to direct, since I expect to have less possession.

With ball/without ball can seemingly make a big difference as well. I've dragged the full backs much narrower and high on the with ball screens, and narrower again on the without ball screens so there is less gap between them and the CBs. I made tiny alterations to the AMC/middle MC in both formations as well so they're not flat in line with the strikers or the other MCs, I wanted them just behind the strikers in the 41212 and just ahead of the other two MCs in the 4132.

Also, click through the individual settings from the drop down menu. I noticed that some of those were contradicting my team settings after I moved a couple of players about. For example it had the defenders set to no pressing, so you need to click it back to 'team' so everyone is on the same page. Also my DMC was set to make forward runs so I had to turn that off. Another thing I use this for is during the game, when one of my players gets booked I set their tackling back to 'normal' so they don't pick up another booking thanks to my hard tackling team setting.

 

[Orikoru]

Season two is over, my team turned to absolute rubbish as soon as the league title was secured, but whatever, it's over now. Final record is W34 D6 L6, GF102 GA33 Pts 108. 18 point gap over 2nd place Derby.

Roll on the summer, time to bring in some Premier League quality recruits!

 

[Beezerk]

Stayed in the Prem first time after a good run of results near the end, top 4 so far in the second season but I can't put a run of results together. Been playing 4-4-1-1 (Crusade I think it's called) with Moukoko behind Skiladis, seems to work well with Victory and N'Diaye as central midfielders. Seem to be getting loads of injuries at crucial times though which is costing me games.
I've had some players on the transfer list for over a year and no one has tried to buy them lol, are they valued too high?

 

[Orikoru]

Done some tidy transfer business in the summer. Signed Luca Toni who looks an absolute beast of a striker, Corneliusson who can play either full back position, Ibrahim Said who was languishing at relegated Nottm Forest and should start at DMC, plus Steven Reid who can play basically every position on the field, turned me down for about two years straight but I've finally got my man!

Meanwhile I forgot to arrange any friendlies. Hopefully that doesn't matter on this game because the league is about to start.

 

[Orikoru]

I must say, our first season in the top flight is going well. Despite 3 losses, we're top of the table after 10 games, having won the other 7. Best of the bunch was beating Arsenal 3-0 away! Somehow! Proud of the lads. #itscominghome

 

[Beezerk]

Won the PL last night, pipped Man Utd by a point lol.

I need to beef up my centre mid and defence as I'm short handed when I get an injury or a ban, any top notch players I should be looking at?
Had Said taken from me on a contract clause again Skiladis is an absolute beast up front, scored 5 goals in one game

 

[Orikoru]

Won the PL last night, pipped Man Utd by a point lol.

I need to beef up my centre mid and defence as I'm short handed when I get an injury or a ban, any top notch players I should be looking at?
Had Said taken from me on a contract clause again Skiladis is an absolute beast up front, scored 5 goals in one game

Wow, don't know who Skiladis is but fair play. Did you say you already had Fredrik Risp because I've heard he's a great DC on the game? In all honesty, if you go to Player Search and put in Interested:Yes, pick defence centre, and in the attributes tab put like 17+ for positioning, tackling and maybe marking, then search - scout anyone who comes up that you can afford and if they say 'excellent signing' then go for it. I did this, ended up buying a guy from Colchester for 300k and he's been an absolute machine, averages like 7.6 over the season. Positioning, tackling and marking seem to be the key stats - if they have all of them then go for the one with the most strength & pace. I always make sure they have good determination as well, because apparently that's really important in this game.