Championship Manager 2001/02

[Beezerk]

Is this the free one you can download but is an absolute bitch to get working in windows 10?

 

[Dan2501]

Can't be anymore difficult getting it to run on Windows 10 than it is on Mac

 

[Orikoru]

Okay, I'll give a 4-1-2-1-2 a go. Everton's wingers are crap anyway, so not a big loss playing without width. What do you go for team instruction wise? Do you mess with the on-the-ball/off-the-ball stuff? I can design a tactic happily on FM19 but really struggled with the lack of options and instructions on CM01/02 last night. Will have another bash tonight.

Guardiola picked Ligue 1 over Division 2 with Wigan? Is he mad? I've not started my save again yet, so will keep Pep in mind when I start again after work tonight

I looked up a bit of a guide on with/without ball but it was a lot of faffing about really. In the end all I did was move the full backs more narrow on the 'with ball' screens. I left the without ball ones alone as they are already narrow on there. If you do set the with ball ones, be aware that if you go back and draw a new arrow on a player it resets the 'with ball' for him anyway, lol. So you can probably just draw the arrows and it's all good. I have small forward arrows on the full backs, the MCs and the AMC in the 41212.

I followed some online advice for the team instructions which seems to work, I use attacking, short passing, pressing on, offsides on and hard tackling. When I need a goal I put passing to direct, when I'm hanging onto a lead I can go from attacking to normal or defensive. If someone gets booked I turn their personal tackling setting back to normal, because I got a few red cards beforehand..

Yeah there's no accounting for taste. I had to settle for Billy McKinlay.

 

[Orikoru]

Is this the free one you can download but is an absolute bitch to get working in windows 10?

I have heard that - they have technical support on the forum on the site you download it from. As I mentioned I still had the disc lying around so wasn't a problem for me. The problem with the download on windows 10 is that you need something to trick it into thinking you have the disc in there, I think.

 

[Dan2501]

4-1-2-1-2 is the answer it seems. Managed to salvage my save I started last night and won 4 on the bounce since switching tactics. Mark Pembridge has become a star in the new system, has 3 goals in 4 games. We’re up to 7th in the league as well, definite progress!

 

[SteveW86]

Can't be anymore difficult getting it to run on Windows 10 than it is on Mac

Dan, how did you get it to work on a Mac. Ive followed the instructions on line but can't get it to work. I'm not as tech savvy as I thought

 

[Beezerk]

Ok I'm confised, why can't I find most of the players you lot mention in player search? Even the most named one on Google Joao Paiva isn't there.

 

[Orikoru]

Ok I'm confised, why can't I find most of the players you lot mention in player search? Even the most named one on Google Joao Paiva isn't there.

Might depend on what size database you chose when you started the game. And how many leagues you chose to add, I put the four other major leagues on as 'background'.

In other news, I've finally worn down Bakircioglü! Much rejoicing! I've also signed Michael Essien, who in this game is a centre back, but that's subject to a work permit so I imagine that deal will crash and burn.

 

[Beezerk]

Might depend on what size database you chose when you started the game. And how many leagues you chose to add, I put the four other major leagues on as 'background.

I've got no idea what that means 🤣
I just installed the game and tried to crack on.

 

[SteveW86]

I've got no idea what that means 🤣
I just installed the game and tried to crack on.

If you select more leagues then more players will be in the game. On some of the newer versions of the franchise you could select to play with a small/medium or large database, just another selecting it. For example if you select France as a playable/background league then all of the clubs will have a full roster of players, if it is an unplayable league you will likely find that all the clubs only have the key players.

On another note that To Madeira player is rather handy!

 

[Dan2501]

Dan, how did you get it to work on a Mac. Ive followed the instructions on line but can't get it to work. I'm not as tech savvy as I thought

Found it pretty straight forward using PlayOnMac, there are a few decent tutorials on Youtube how to get it set up but shouldn't give you too much bother.

I've got no idea what that means 🤣
I just installed the game and tried to crack on.

Go into Settings within the game and check the Database size, it should be set to large, but you'll have to start a new save.

Made good progress last night. Sat 11th in Jan. Team has changed A LOT from the starter squad. We're now set-up like:

---------------Chiotis----------------
--Kerr-----Risp-----West--Victory---
---------------Said-------------------
-------Gravesen---Pembridge------
-------------Bakircioglü--------------
--------Madeira----Radzinski-------

Sold Gazza, Xavier, Cleland, Myhre, Cadamarteri and Max Moore as well as Alexandersson and Schumacher and so have £1.5m after adding all those players in the 1st XI to the squad + Farnerud. Also secured Radoslaw Kaluzny on a free as his contract expires at the end of the season, he has insane attributes - 7 20's, 2 19's and his only attributes <10 are handling and reflexes. Should be awesome!

 

[Orikoru]

Made good progress last night. Sat 11th in Jan. Team has changed A LOT from the starter squad. We're now set-up like:

---------------Chiotis----------------
--Kerr-----Risp-----West--Victory---
---------------Said-------------------
-------Gravesen---Pembridge------
-------------Bakircioglü--------------
--------Madeira----Radzinski-------

Sold Gazza, Xavier, Cleland, Myhre, Cadamarteri and Max Moore as well as Alexandersson and Schumacher and so have £1.5m after adding all those players in the 1st XI to the squad + Farnerud. Also secured Radoslaw Kaluzny on a free as his contract expires at the end of the season, he has insane attributes - 7 20's, 2 19's and his only attributes <10 are handling and reflexes. Should be awesome!

Decent looking side, I'm not sure about Victory though, scouted him on mine and he didn't look great! He had a few 20s for random things but poor on a couple of crucial things. My deal for Essien crashed and burned over the work permit, predictably. But luckily my bargain basement signing of Ross Johnson from Colchester is actually doing a great job, so I'm going to stick with him I think. I'm second in Division One having lost 3 games already but won the other 7 with no draws. Bit like real life Spurs, ha. I missed out on Tsigalko altogether now as he's gone to Galatasaray, but another blast from the past sprung to mind and I'm scouting Michalis Konstantinou now...

Squad looks like:

Chiotis/Isaksson
Mike Duff - Ross Johnson - Taribo West - David Pirri
Billy McKinlay
Ian Kilford/J.Jenas - - - Kevin Street
T.Z.Moukoko/Bakircioglü
Peter Weatherston/Lee McCulloch - - - Tõ Madeira
​

Got youngster David Poole as another attacker for rotation as well, but he'll go out on loan if I can sign another top striker. I'm not a big fan of Pirri, he's inconsistent and seems to have poor fitness a lot, so I might start looking for a new LB. McKinlay will probably need replacing soon as he's 33.

 

[Dan2501]

Victory has been really good for me, not perfect, but a massive improvement on Pistone and Unsworth! Is Baines on CM01/02? I presume he's just slightly too young to have been on it.

Damn. I'm guessing it's difficult to get a WP for Tsigalko? Might try and pick him up. Konstantinou is another cheap gem. Take a look at Joao Paiva as well!

 

[Orikoru]

Nah, I didn't have Baines. He must have only been about 16 that season or maybe 15 so hadn't broken through.

Basically impossible to get a work permit for Tsigalko I think. Perhaps in a few years when he has international caps I'll try again! I've scouted that Paiva as well, I'd never heard of him until Beezerk mentioned him above. I had agreed a deal for a class looking striker named Bojan Brnovic, but he didn't get a work permit either (he's Yugoslavian). I'm trying again with him just in case, but when it falls through again I'll go with either Konstantinou or Paiva I think. Cyriots don't need work permits do they?

 

[Dan2501]

Yeah, just checked and he broke into the Wigan side in 2002, so he's a year out from making it into the game. Sad times.

Don't think Cypriots need WP's, so you should be all good, and Konstantinou is an absolute beast, remember having him on one save and him scoring an absolute bucket-load. Might have to make a move for him myself as Radzinski and Campbell aren't exactly goal machines. Just feel bad that I've basically stripped out the entire pre-existing Everton squad in the space of half a season On FM19 I've still got a great Everton core from the original squad in 2023, that is not going to happen here.

 

[Orikoru]

Everton were pretty poor in those days in fairness. I think in 01/02 in real life they came 15th. I still have a few original Wigan players. Ian Kilford was my best midfielder in the first season. I have a young DR/C named Hugh Dickson who I try to give minutes to as he looks pretty decent. My back up left back is an original, Peter Kennedy, he gets plenty of games because of Pirri always being knackered. Still have Tony Dinning as back-up DMC. Lee McCulloch is actually really good on the game so I rotate him in up front - he has like 20 strength and heading so he gets a few goals. In the first season I was playing De Vos at the back but I sold him to Man Utd! I think that's it, I've got rid of everyone else.

 

[Orikoru]

Jury was out on Moukoko as he's been a bit hit and miss... until this game against Grimsby where he's scored a hatrick inside the first ten minutes! Unbelievable. And he was playing midfield as well.

We had a bit of dodgy away form in September, but I've sorted that out and gone on a run of ten straight wins in the league now. 21 games played and we're 10 points clear at the top of Division One! Premier League is in our sights.

 

[Beezerk]

Still can’t see most of the players who seem popular even though I’ve selected all leagues and set the database size to maximum. What version and player database are you lot using, I’m version .68 and same for players I think.
On another note, what do you do with “with ball” and “without ball” in the tactics page? All the players seem to be crammed into a corner in those tabs so I just set them as per the normal formation.

 

[Orikoru]

Still can’t see most of the players who seem popular even though I’ve selected all leagues and set the database size to maximum. What version and player database are you lot using, I’m version .68 and same for players I think.
On another note, what do you do with “with ball” and “without ball” in the tactics page? All the players seem to be crammed into a corner in those tabs so I just set them as per the normal formation.

Erm, I don't know, mine is installed straight from the disc so whatever the default database is. How are you searching for them? 'Find' on the left tab and then 'players', yeah? Guys like To Madeira, Cherno Samba, Maxim Tsigalko should 100% be there. Try searching for their teams instead and see if they're in the squads. Tsigalko is at Dinamo Minsk I think, Samba is at Millwall. Madeira's team is called Gouveia I think.

It just means you can tinker with the player's positioning when the ball is in certain areas of the pitch. So you might want to pull your full backs in narrower on the 'without ball' screens, and also push them further forward on the uppermost 'with ball' screens. I've started using a 4-1-3-2 in some games, but rather than having a flat three man midfield, I've put the central one forward a couple of notches in the 'with ball' screens in an effort to link with the strikers better. It's that's sort of thing. As a rule you want to make your team narrow and compact 'without ball' and try and crowd and surround the box on the uppermost 'with ball' screen I think.

 

[Beezerk]

Dinamo Minsk and Gouveia aren't even listed as teams

Out of interest, what is Attribute Masking when you start a new game and what is the difference if you don't choose real players?