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I don't like Ronaldo - would have someone with his ability at the club but just don't like his attitude

I think he is a classless cry baby who is also very selfish on the pitch

Would take Messi over him every day of the week.

I have read some ridiculous posts in my time but that takes the gold medal.

Anyone would think there was a bit or resentment/bitterness in that post if they didn't know better.....:mmm:
 
I have read some ridiculous posts in my time but that takes the gold medal.

Anyone would think there was a bit or resentment/bitterness in that post if they didn't know better.....:mmm:

Sorry I didn't realise it was ridiculous to show a differing opinion about a player

I don't like Ronaldo - what is the problem with that ?
 
Sorry I didn't realise it was ridiculous to show a differing opinion about a player

I don't like Ronaldo - what is the problem with that ?

Questioning his attitude on the pitch and 'very selfish' on the pitch.

The red tinted bitterness oozes from more and more of your posts.

The guy is without doubt the best player on the planet at this moment in time and you don't get that label with a questionable attitude or by being a greedy sod.

Ridiculous.
 
Questioning his attitude on the pitch and 'very selfish' on the pitch.

The red tinted bitterness oozes from more and more of your posts.

The guy is without doubt the best player on the planet at this moment in time and you don't get that label with a questionable attitude or by being a greedy sod.

Ridiculous.

Yes I don't like his attitude and believe he is a selfish player - again don't see what's wrong with that :mmm:

Sorry can you tell me what opinion I should have about Ronaldo if I can't have my own :rolleyes:
 
Don't need a world class striker to win the CL :thup:

True, but I would suggest the remarks towards Chelsea aren't based simply on the CL. You can have the best team in world and not always work.

But by that logic it's all down to luck. IMO mourinho personality aside is a very good/great manager. He employs tactics that some may or may not like. But when he has his entire squad together I'll judge him then.
 
Yes I don't like his attitude and believe he is a selfish player - again don't see what's wrong with that :mmm:

Sorry can you tell me what opinion I should have about Ronaldo if I can't have my own :rolleyes:

Fire on then. 110% wide of the mark with that but well done for believing the jackanory that your mind has produced.:thup:
 
True, but I would suggest the remarks towards Chelsea aren't based simply on the CL. You can have the best team in world and not always work.

But by that logic it's all down to luck. IMO mourinho personality aside is a very good/great manager. He employs tactics that some may or may not like. But when he has his entire squad together I'll judge him then.

Judge managers on how they adapt their tactics and their squad

Pellegrini has arrived and has managed to get his tactics working with the squad , Pep over at Bayern , Blanc and PSG , Ancelotti at Madrid even BR at Liverpool - managers that have moulded the squad to fit his tactics or have adjusted the tactics to fit the squad.

Maureen should also be judged as each season goes by - it appears he has arrived , spent money , and haven't improved - last season was 3rd and a European trophy - this season it looks like 3rd and no trophy
 
Fire on then. 110% wide of the mark with that but well done for believing the jackanory that your mind has produced.:thup:

You appear to fail to realise that other people can have a differing opinion regardless of what you believe.

That's the good thing about opinions :thup:
 
Judge managers on how they adapt their tactics and their squad

Pellegrini has arrived and has managed to get his tactics working with the squad , Pep over at Bayern , Blanc and PSG , Ancelotti at Madrid even BR at Liverpool - managers that have moulded the squad to fit his tactics or have adjusted the tactics to fit the squad.

Maureen should also be judged as each season goes by - it appears he has arrived , spent money , and haven't improved - last season was 3rd and a European trophy - this season it looks like 3rd and no trophy


All those squads you've mentioned have very good / world class strikers. Mourinho can't magically make Torres the player once was. His tactics so far this year have got him results against the likes of liverpool and city so he's not doing too bad. In most of the games i've watched of chelsea's they have had strikers mis absolute sitters. Think back to last week at anfield, would torres of old squared to ba? No of course not, but he has zero confidence now.

The clubs you mentioned, Bayern, won league at a canter, no real surpirse. Pep didn't look to have adapted them too well midweek. PSG have a free run at the french title and Madrid will probably finish 2/3 in la liga. thats no improvement.

Put Torres and Ba in place of Suarrez and Sturridge and would BR tactics still have you challenging. Goals win games, clean sheets help and chelsea are the best at them, but without the goals (which a new striker may bring) they were always gonna struggle.

I also presume that if you were to finish 2nd this year, then 3rd next year you'd be asking for br's head as you hadn't improved?
 
All those squads you've mentioned have very good / world class strikers. Mourinho can't magically make Torres the player once was. His tactics so far this year have got him results against the likes of liverpool and city so he's not doing too bad. In most of the games i've watched of chelsea's they have had strikers mis absolute sitters. Think back to last week at anfield, would torres of old squared to ba? No of course not, but he has zero confidence now.

The clubs you mentioned, Bayern, won league at a canter, no real surpirse. Pep didn't look to have adapted them too well midweek. PSG have a free run at the french title and Madrid will probably finish 2/3 in la liga. thats no improvement.

Put Torres and Ba in place of Suarrez and Sturridge and would BR tactics still have you challenging. Goals win games, clean sheets help and chelsea are the best at them, but without the goals (which a new striker may bring) they were always gonna struggle.

I also presume that if you were to finish 2nd this year, then 3rd next year you'd be asking for br's head as you hadn't improved?

I do say to people "never presume"

The point I was trying to make is Maureen is supposed to be a "top class tactician" - he wins trophies no doubt and has tactics that stifle opponents but if Maureen was that good a tactician then surely he would have adjusted his tactics to get round the fact he spent millions on players but in striker.

In 05 Rafa had a poor squad - no world class striker and a first 11 full of holes but he managed to adjust his tactics to get the best out of the squad and won the CL. The top coaches adjust their tactics to fit the squad - Maureen is a top man manager - that there is no doubt - but I don't believe as a tactician he is at the top
 
I do say to people "never presume"

The point I was trying to make is Maureen is supposed to be a "top class tactician" - he wins trophies no doubt and has tactics that stifle opponents but if Maureen was that good a tactician then surely he would have adjusted his tactics to get round the fact he spent millions on players but in striker.

In 05 Rafa had a poor squad - no world class striker and a first 11 full of holes but he managed to adjust his tactics to get the best out of the squad and won the CL. The top coaches adjust their tactics to fit the squad - Maureen is a top man manager - that there is no doubt - but I don't believe as a tactician he is at the top

Istanbul was a magical night and a one off. You were 3 down and it could have been worse. Yes tactics came into it. But so did a hell if a lot of luck.

Mourinho has won top trophies in 3 countries, breaking records along the way. The fact you refer to him as Maureen shows that your dislike for him is evident in your judgement of him. I'm not sure what tactics you could employ when you have no goal getter in your team. Surely te best tactics would be to keep clean sheets and try and score the one you need. Something he has based Chelsea on this year.

He took Porto and won the CL, surely that's as big as Liverpool's win? Making him as good as Rafa? For everybad result he has, he has many more good. He was unbeaten at home in league footy for close to a decade, surely that's a bit better than just man management?


**** 4 countries
 
Istanbul was a magical night and a one off. You were 3 down and it could have been worse. Yes tactics came into it. But so did a hell if a lot of luck.

Mourinho has won top trophies in 3 countries, breaking records along the way. The fact you refer to him as Maureen shows that your dislike for him is evident in your judgement of him. I'm not sure what tactics you could employ when you have no goal getter in your team. Surely te best tactics would be to keep clean sheets and try and score the one you need. Something he has based Chelsea on this year.

He took Porto and won the CL, surely that's as big as Liverpool's win? Making him as good as Rafa? For everybad result he has, he has many more good. He was unbeaten at home in league footy for close to a decade, surely that's a bit better than just man management?


**** 4 countries

On that note "im oot" :thup:
 
I do say to people "never presume"

The point I was trying to make is Maureen is supposed to be a "top class tactician" - he wins trophies no doubt and has tactics that stifle opponents but if Maureen was that good a tactician then surely he would have adjusted his tactics to get round the fact he spent millions on players but in striker.



In 05 Rafa had a poor squad - no world class striker and a first 11 full of holes but he managed to adjust his tactics to get the best out of the squad and won the CL. The top coaches adjust their tactics to fit the squad - Maureen is a top man manager - that there is no doubt - but I don't believe as a tactician he is at the top

Is that so when yuo contradict yourself you have a get out clause? Or are you above hypocrisy?
 
Is that so when yuo contradict yourself you have a get out clause? Or are you above hypocrisy?


When have I ever said anything about asking for managers heads ? When did I suggest that Maureen should be sacked because he didn't improve Chelsea position from last season ?

If we finish 2nd this season and 3rd next season then the team have gone backwards one place

Can you point out the hypocrisy please ?
 
When have I ever said anything about asking for managers heads ? When did I suggest that Maureen should be sacked because he didn't improve Chelsea position from last season ?

If we finish 2nd this season and 3rd next season then the team have gone backwards one place

Can you point out the hypocrisy please ?

Ok, let me reword it. Will you consider br a failure in comparison to his peers if you drop a place?

re hypocrisy, let's see. Rafa wins champions league with unfancied pool and is master tactician, mourinho does it with Porto and is only a man manager?

Or maybe, Chelsea play anti football under mourinho because they counter attack and managed to upset poor
 
When have I ever said anything about asking for managers heads ? When did I suggest that Maureen should be sacked because he didn't improve Chelsea position from last season ?

If we finish 2nd this season and 3rd next season then the team have gone backwards one place

Can you point out the hypocrisy please ?

Ok, let me reword it. Will you consider br a failure in comparison to his peers if you drop a place?

re hypocrisy, let's see. Rafa wins champions league with unfancied pool and is master tactician, mourinho does it with Porto and is only a man manager?

Or maybe, Chelsea play anti football under mourinho because they counter attack and managed to upset poor old Liverpool last weekend, yet when you played counter attack under Rafa I presume (sorry to do that again) still supported Liverpool and didn't campaign for the anti football to end?

uou don't like mourinho, I get it. You don't like Chelsea I get that too. I also understand why, they're rivals you're not meant to like rivals. I Just think that belittling every little thing is amusing, like saying mourinho doesn't have tactical nous as he lost a match, even tho he has won countless trophies with big and small clubs as favourites and as underdogs.

Now ow in sure you have an answer to all this, but as you've pointed out in the past. I only support Southampton so I wouldn't understand so I wouldn't worry about trying to explain it to me.

Anyway, I belive your "ooot". I'll now unsubscribe from this as I've just finished decorating and I reckon my time would be better spent watching it try. Adios!
 
Ok, let me reword it. Will you consider br a failure in comparison to his peers if you drop a place?

re hypocrisy, let's see. Rafa wins champions league with unfancied pool and is master tactician, mourinho does it with Porto and is only a man manager?

Or maybe, Chelsea play anti football under mourinho because they counter attack and managed to upset poor


When did I say anything about "failure" or say that Maureen is "only" a man manager ?!

You keep "re wording" things but stop presuming and stop suggesting I'm saying things I haven't.

Exhausted it now

Maureen - best man manager in football , highly successful but isn't IMO a master tactician but can get the job done

Hopefully that will answer any further re wordings you may have

Anyway

Do like this pic seen on Twitter

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When did I say anything about "failure" or say that Maureen is "only" a man manager ?!

You keep "re wording" things but stop presuming and stop suggesting I'm saying things I haven't.

Exhausted it now

Maureen - best man manager in football , highly successful but isn't IMO a master tactician but can get the job done

Hopefully that will answer any further re wordings you may have

Anyway

Do like this pic seen on Twitter

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Yes yes I know, you're the best fans in the world.i get it. It's a sham the plastic flags aren't clearly in vision To make it more emphatic.
Since when did i say mourinho was a master tactician? I said he's a great manager, for me that encompasses all facets of his style. All I've said is I think your opinion or dislike of him is clouding your opinion of his ability.

I shall no longer presume things, but I will expect be to be treated the same if you were to under achieve next season.
 
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