Champions League

[Fish]

So anytime you mention anything in regards Suarez that has happened in the past we can remember this post

Like I said - Rameires was Saturday and it's conveniently ignored.

You threw your teddies out in regards a post I made and no resort to cheap jibes ( shall I be expecting a PM or even a visit ) - a few home truths about your club in reply and they get again conveniently ignored

It's purely hypocritical but it's par of the norm these days

Money can buy lots of things - there is some things it can't buy

I called you a knob in a pm that's all, you ran to the teachers and I got warned and some points, as I say, last word every time like some old woman, which has been noticed and stated by other individuals openly also.

I won't have to read or reply to your drivel any more Phillipa, I can't see your posts any more thankfully.

 

[clubchamp98]

Certainly need to find a way to clamp down on a lot of incidents - no idea what needs to be done but something certainly needs to change

And yes all teams have people that embarress the club and people that need to clean up their act

Just going a bit miffed when it appears ok to highlight one player

Anyone who is caught Diving should be red carded ! That would stop it but you will get all the liberals saying what if the ref is wrong .=== Well refs get a lot wrong=== its just blatant cheating like shirt pulling in the area give a penalty and they wont do it, let them do it and they wont stop. ===I am a Liverpool fan and watch Skrytil every week thinking the ref must have seen that. ==But he is not the only one .=== The Ramires elbow / forearm smash was a disgrace and anyone who does this should get a SIX game ban auto.

 

[Papas1982]

Anyone who is caught Diving should be red carded ! That would stop it but you will get all the liberals saying what if the ref is wrong .=== Well refs get a lot wrong=== its just blatant cheating like shirt pulling in the area give a penalty and they wont do it, let them do it and they wont stop. ===I am a Liverpool fan and watch Skrytil every week thinking the ref must have seen that. ==But he is not the only one .=== The Ramires elbow / forearm smash was a disgrace and anyone who does this should get a SIX game ban auto.

its been mentioned mentioned in the past and still hasn't happened. Have a panel of ex players. Maybe if poss 1 from each team in league. Then have 3 decide on dives / cheating after each weekend. Warning first offence, 1 game, 3 game, 5 game. Wouldn't take long to slow it up. As to Skrtel, in his defence he did learn from carra lol

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Didn't they try to ban Eduardo for 3 games for diving

But was challenged in court and the ban was thrown out because they need to "prove" intent to dive etc

It's so hard to judge

And yes Skrtel needs to stop grabbing hold of players - it could cost us dearly

 

[Papas1982]

Didn't they try to ban Eduardo for 3 games for diving

But was challenged in court and the ban was thrown out because they need to "prove" intent to dive etc

It's so hard to judge

And yes Skrtel needs to stop grabbing hold of players - it could cost us dearly

Maybe if they bought the rule into affect at start of season as opposed to retrospectively then clubs would have no way to complain. Plus when a player winks after said dives their guilt is a bit more obvious.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Maybe if they bought the rule into affect at start of season as opposed to retrospectively then clubs would have no way to complain. Plus when a player winks after said dives their guilt is a bit more obvious.

Clubs will always use lawyers etc to try and find a way around it and they already have done.

Have to prove intent - a player could just say - I didn't mean to dive and they have to prove he is lying ? Very hard as UEFA found out - hence why no one has been charged since

 

[Papas1982]

Clubs will always use lawyers etc to try and find a way around it and they already have done.

Have to prove intent - a player could just say - I didn't mean to dive and they have to prove he is lying ? Very hard as UEFA found out - hence why no one has been charged since

I know that, but I'm sure if a rule at start of season said that the panel would be in place and that their decision would be used then clubs would be binded by it. The fa and FIFA dig their heels in only plenty of rulings (fletcher missing cl final for example). I remember Chelsea fans and players actually giving drogba grief one game. Maybe more fans should do that. Every time Suarez, Young, Ramirez, Oscar et all dive a chorus of boos ringing out May change things.

 

[Fish]

Maybe if they bought the rule into affect at start of season as opposed to retrospectively then clubs would have no way to complain. Plus when a player winks after said dives their guilt is a bit more obvious.

What ever happened to the marching forward 10yds for descent like in Rugby, I've never heard it was removed or do the ref's just not bother with it any more?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I know that, but I'm sure if a rule at start of season said that the panel would be in place and that their decision would be used then clubs would be binded by it. The fa and FIFA dig their heels in only plenty of rulings (fletcher missing cl final for example). I remember Chelsea fans and players actually giving drogba grief one game. Maybe more fans should do that. Every time Suarez, Young, Ramirez, Oscar et all dive a chorus of boos ringing out May change things.

Possibly - would certainly need to be water tight to implement

Fans won't boo their own players if they see dives because at the game you don't have the 20 replays to analyse to see if there was contact or not

 

[Slime]

What ever happened to the marching forward 10yds for descent like in Rugby, I've never heard it was removed or do the ref's just not bother with it any more?

I believe it was removed because sometimes it was done on purpose so that players of that era, such as David Beckham, ended up too close to the goal to get the ball both over the wall and under the bar.
Direct free kicks are easier to score from when they are 25yds out as opposed to 18yds out.


Slime.

 

[Pin-seeker]

Players should just man up & stop rolling round on the floor like little girls. To go down holding your leg like you've been shot,then jumping up & sprinting 2 seconds later is pathetic. Maybe the managers should have a word with their players.
Refs should certainly be booking more players for it.

The Real v Bayern tie should be a good one. The 2nd leg tends to be better in CL knock out tho.
I have to laugh at people questioning Chelsea's tactics in the CL when they're the only English team left in it

 

[Papas1982]

What ever happened to the marching forward 10yds for descent like in Rugby, I've never heard it was removed or do the ref's just not bother with it any more?

I think we'll hopefully have that solved after this wc as they're trialling the temp spray that lasts approx 30 seconds be disappearing.

do'h saw the 10 yard bit at free kicks and got ahead of myself. There's also the 6 seconds for keepers.........

 

[Papas1982]

Possibly - would certainly need to be water tight to implement

Fans won't boo their own players if they see dives because at the game you don't have the 20 replays to analyse to see if there was contact or not

Chelsea fans certainly booed that antics of didier. Maybe not the dive itself but all the theatrics that follow.

 

[Foxholer]

Anyone who is caught Diving should be red carded ! That would stop it but you will get all the liberals saying what if the ref is wrong .=== Well refs get a lot wrong=== its just blatant cheating like shirt pulling in the area give a penalty and they wont do it, let them do it and they wont stop. ===I am a Liverpool fan and watch Skrytil every week thinking the ref must have seen that. ==But he is not the only one .=== The Ramires elbow / forearm smash was a disgrace and anyone who does this should get a SIX game ban auto.

I'm just about with this. I'd be prepared to restrict it to diving in the Penalty area though. That way the game could be stopped (and reviewed?) as it's either a Penalty or/and Red Card.

The Skyrtil (and others) style cheating is my other gripe. Plenty of opposition attackers are doing equivalent though - corners can be chaotic/hilarious to watch! And I can remember seeing a striker (won't name) just put his head down and walk/barge straight into a defender during preparation for a cornet/free kick too! So it's not always the defender to blame/at fault.

A sin-bin for such cheating could well be a good solution!

As asked a couple of times..what's happened with the Ramires incident? Surely it hasn't been ignored/resolved as seen and dealt with!

 

[Pin-seeker]

I'm just about with this. I'd be prepared to restrict it to diving in the Penalty area though. That way the game could be stopped (and reviewed?) as it's either a Penalty or/and Red Card.

The Skyrtil (and others) style cheating is my other gripe. Plenty of opposition attackers are doing equivalent though - corners can be chaotic/hilarious to watch! And I can remember seeing a striker (won't name) just put his head down and walk/barge straight into a defender during preparation for a cornet/free kick too! So it's not always the defender to blame/at fault.

A sin-bin for such cheating could well be a good solution!

As asked a couple of times..what's happened with the Ramires incident? Surely it hasn't been ignored/resolved as seen and dealt with!

We also need consistency,I've seen Fellaini blatantly elbow opponents twice this season & escape unpunished.

 

[Foxholer]

We also need consistency,I've seen Fellaini blatantly elbow opponents twice this season & escape unpunished.

I'm all for consistency.

And I would also like the FA 'out' of the Ref having dealt with it on the field to be removed as well. At least for certain offences - and without it being a criticism of way the Ref handled it. If a Yellow Card was given for an offence that, on review, is a Red Card one, then there should be no issue raising it to a Red imo. It works the other way - where appeals can cancel a Red!

 

[pbrown7582]

We also need consistency,I've seen Fellaini blatantly elbow opponents twice this season & escape unpunished.

No no zabeleta bounced his chin off fellainis elbow ..... :rofl:

 

[Pin-seeker]

I'm all for consistency.

And I would also like the FA 'out' of the Ref having dealt with it on the field to be removed as well. At least for certain offences - and without it being a criticism of way the Ref handled it. If a Yellow Card was given for an offence that, on review, is a Red Card one, then there should be no issue raising it to a Red imo. It works the other way - where appeals can cancel a Red!

Yep agree with that.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I'm all for consistency.

And I would also like the FA 'out' of the Ref having dealt with it on the field to be removed as well. At least for certain offences - and without it being a criticism of way the Ref handled it. If a Yellow Card was given for an offence that, on review, is a Red Card one, then there should be no issue raising it to a Red imo. It works the other way - where appeals can cancel a Red!

The FA dont deal in common sense :smirk:

 

[richart]

Despite the score Bayern look good. Keep the ball like Barcelona, but at a higher tempo. They also get crosses in, and there is plenty of goalmouth action. I know I would rather watch their style of football than Barcelona's. Slightly ironic considering who their manager is, but I imagine he is intelligent enough to let them play the Bayern way.