Cast v’s Forged Wedges?

[patricks148]

Cast v’s Forged Wedges?

Something I’ve notice recently, quite a few guys using forged irons yet using cast wedges.

Makes me wonder…. Why?

noticed over the last few months guys have recently got forged irons and raved about the soft buttery feel etc from forged irons, yet use cast wedges… Vokey etc.

Surly you feel the benefit more with forged wedges than irons as more feel shots played with them.

I’m not bringing pro golfer into this topic because lets face it you just don’t really know what they are using despite what it says on the club, not that it matters.

I tried Vokeys before and they just felt dead, but that’s just me, what about the rest of you?

 

[Val]

To comment Patrick on your last lines of your post, vokeys are amongst the most used wedges on tour so they can't be bad and before you say pros "may" use different ones I can say for certain with vokey they dont, all that changes is grinds. What you buy off the shelf is what the tour van carries.

Other than that, im happy with my vokeys despite never trying forged wedges.

 

[NWJocko]

Not a fan of vokeys but doubt that's because they're cast.

99% of the time I'm not hitting the ball well enough to appreciate the difference I wouldn't have thought, with irons or wedges.

The KZG wedge I had (until the head fell off ) was really nice, again not sure that was just down to forging though.

Love the West Coast Design wedges that I tried the other day and bought one, don't even know if they're forged!!

 

[One Planer]

I've had cast (TM's XFT) and my current forged MP T10's.

I thought the XFT wedges were a pretty good offering to be honest. The Mizzy wedges I have now, are probably thre best I've owned (but that isn't saying much as they are only my second set )

They offer better "feel" than the TM when struck, but as I said the TM weren't shabby either.

I probably not good enough to notice a vast difference, but maybe one day :smirk:

 

[DCB]

I've used both Cast and forged wedges in recent times. Recently changed my sand wedge from a MP R10 to a JPX cast model and there's not really an awful lot of difference between them.

In an ideal world I'd prefer to go with a nice forged wedge, but they do wear quicker than forged wedges. After two years they are really showing their age, especially if a lot of practice is done with it as well.

 

[CMAC]

it explains why I've always thought the vokeys felt 'dead' to me as well, I like forged, or at least something that feels forged (Ping i20) over the heavier cast wedges, gotta be a reason so many tour players love them, but each to their own.

 

[Andy808]

I use forged irons and wedges. I just prefer them that's all.

 

[patricks148]

I've used both Cast and forged wedges in recent times. Recently changed my sand wedge from a MP R10 to a JPX cast model and there's not really an awful lot of difference between them.

In an ideal world I'd prefer to go with a nice forged wedge, but they do wear quicker than forged wedges. After two years they are really showing their age, especially if a lot of practice is done with it as well.

Easy solution, don't do any practice

I had set of MX17 as my first proper irons they came with sw and struggled with the chunkieness of it, saw an old SH mizuno black ox in the shop for £10 and found it so much better. Swapped to a forged PW and the rest as thay say is history.

 

[thecraw]

Most people won't be able to tell the difference if they given a club to hit.

Technology has advanced so much in casting process that they still offer excellent feedback and feel.

 

[patricks148]

Most people won't be able to tell the difference if they given a club to hit.

Technology has advanced so much in casting process that they still offer excellent feedback and feel.

my point was why comment on the lovely soft feel with forged irons then use cast wedge, if you think you can tell the diff in an iron why not a wedge?

I dont profess to being able to tell myself, as a relatively high handicap. i've only got forged as i prefer a smaller clubhead and to get that most of the time the only option is forged.

 

[thecraw]

my point was why comment on the lovely soft feel with forged irons then use cast wedge, if you think you can tell the diff in an iron why not a wedge?

I dont profess to being able to tell myself, as a relatively high handicap. i've only got forged as i prefer a smaller clubhead and to get that most of the time the only option is forged.

Look, weight, feel, confidence, price. Any or all of those reasons I'd guess!

 

[patricks148]

Look, weight, feel, confidence, price. Any or all of those reasons I'd guess!

but surley if you are going on feel and you can tell the diff (or think you can) wouldn't you go forged?

Price can't be it Vokey are deff more expensive that most brand forged, Mizuno you can pick up very cheap!

 

[MashieNiblick]

I've used Vokey and forged Mizuno. Can't say I could tell the difference. Or at least I don't think what difference there might be has any affect on my game. Maybe, due to the fact that with a wedge you usually aren't hitting so hard, there is less dfference in feel as compared to longer irons. Also Vokey, according to their website, heat treat the club heads so they feel similar to a forged club.

> Voke's Notebook > FAQs FAQs

What is the thinking or engineering reason for cast wedges?

Titleist Vokey Design wedges are cast from mild carbon steel which is heat treated to match the softness of the material we use in our family of forged irons. This means the feel and sound of Vokey wedges are very similar to forged irons. Over one hundred Vokey Design wedges are played each week at a typical PGA Tour event so the feel and performance are well-accepted by the best players in the world. We choose to cast Vokey wedges because of the large number of models we develop for both the worldwide professional tours and the marketplace. Cast tooling is a more efficient and accurate way to faithfully reproduce the special grinds Bob creates for the Tour. We are also able to more rapidly develop and test prototype sole grinds and to finalize the slight tweaks needed to create the best performing wedge products

 

[bigslice]

but surley if you are going on feel and you can tell the diff (or think you can) wouldn't you go forged?

Price can't be it Vokey are deff more expensive that most brand forged, Mizuno you can pick up very cheap![/QUOTE

cheap cast clubs for me stung my hands when hit a bad shot, when i bought my mizzys nov 2008 i tried them next to wilson di7 (they had a rubber damper i think) there was no difference in feel off the club. but i had the dosh and went with the mizzys. if i got new irons i may go the wilson route as the factory is in ayrshire. ive tried vokeys but they didnt suit my eye but i believe the sm4 are slightly bigger. but im happy with my wedge setup

 

[Mungoscorner]

Personally speaking,its a no contest.
Vokeys are the right shape,the right weight,and feel every bit as good as a forged iron when struck properly.
I think too many people are being blinded with science and advertising,shaft and ball have far more effect on "feel" than the forging process.

 

[RGDave]

Good call. I would LOVE some forged wedges.

But all us ordinary folk get palmed off with cast at forged price.

Compare my Vokey "cheap-as-chips-construction" SW to my old forged Mizuno SW, totally different club altogether.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I play cast irons and use TM cast irons. I have used forged wedges but to be honest with my limited short game ability the benefit of a softer face has no additional effect on my game

 

[Imurg]

To be honest, Vokeys are pretty soft. Not as soft as forgings but really not that far behind.

As with Golf Balls of a similar type, given a blind test I doubt many would really be able to tell the difference between a Vokey and a MPT10/11