Capello's resigned!!

[Twire]

I can't believe people are happy to see the back of a world class manager with a great European pedigree who has won as many trophies he has.

Capello is a winner and the FA directors think they know better and they listen to the xnephobic press that harry redknapp is a better manager.

Just read this on one of the Hammers sites, and agree whole heartedly.



[h=1]AUTHORITARIAN CAPELLO’S TOO LITTLE TOO LATE[/h]
Fabio Capello’s decision to resign from his position as England manager is a show of the man’s integrity and a glimpse of the sort of ruthlessness that has made him a hugely successful football manager.
His reputation for winning is backed up by facts like how he has won the league championship with every team he has managed. A remarkable feat when you think about it. But since the build up to the 2010 World Cup I’m sure I’m not the only person to doubt whether he’s the right man for the job.
Despite a few sporadic good performances, England remained as poor they were under Dutch language enthusiast Steve McLaren. The performances were bad enough but the one thing that has always irked me is Capello’s actions contradicting his words.
It started with his promise that he would only choose in-form players to represent England. This was welcomed by us all, after spending years watching the same old under performing players turn out for the Three Lions. Unfortunately, the song remained the same…
He continued picking the same faces and then, at the 2010 WC, the same old players were producing abhorrent performances. A great – if biased – example is his failure to take Scott Parker. The former Hammer had an incredible season, was reportedly the most impressive trainer in the initial England squad, but was the left behind so that the fit-again Gareth Barry could take a place in the squad.
Would Parker have made a difference to the England performances of June 2010? Undoubtedly.
After the disappointment of the World Cup, Capello was rightfully criticised and he responded with claims that, from then on, the England squad will be youthful, hungry and built for future success. So it was disappointing to see his next squads full of the same old players. It felt like another broken promise and spelled the end for any belief I had in his position.
So, I’m annoyed to lose a manager so close to a major tournament but I didn’t expect us to do well anyway. At least this gives us time to bring in someone new and gives him the time to shape his England team a bit. Capello’s unwillingness to tolerate being undermined by the dopes at The FA shows a great deal about the man, but it’s the sort of authoritarian statement I was hoping to see more of during his time in charge. Better late than never I guess.
Who do I want to be appointed as the new manager? I might get some stick from fellow Hammers but I want Redknapp. He could get the team playing well and you just know he isn’t afraid to bollock a player who isn’t performing as well as they should. There are no egos in a Redknapp team; if you aren’t pulling your weight, you’re out.
Who better than a candidate who, when you google his name, the auto suggestions include prison, brothel, tax evasion, wheeler dealer and bung? On top of that, it could send Spurs in the direction of all of Arry’s other former clubs…

 

[smange]

Genuine question but can one of you who are clamouring for Redknapp to get the job tell me what he has done to make you think he is going to be the saviour of the English national side?

If im not mistaken he has spent big money wherever he went except for his spell at West Ham where if I remember right he left as he wasnt getting money to spend from the sale of players such as Ferdinand, then spent money at Portsmouth, then got Southampton relegated, then spent money at Portsmouth and has now spent millions at Spurs.

So what makes you all think he can go on and take a bunch of over hyped players who apparently cant even get on with each other on to greater things.

I just dont see the fuss about him

 

[In_The_Rough]

The thing about Scottish fans is tha they at least recognise that the national team is crap. When will the morris dancers wake up? England will NEVER win anything at international level.

If you read all my posts I never said that the England team was good I did however say that we should be a lot better than we are with correct team selections etc which is where the Manager comes into play.

 

[Monty_Brown]

Harry is going to be shocked when someone tells him on his first day that he can't sign players.

As for Capello - to resign on a matter of principle that involves support for the vile toerag that is John Terry... what a sad indictment of the mess that English football is.

I'm not really bothered which of a pretty poor choice of candidates is chosen. We swing back and forth in a media-led debate from "must have a foreign coach with international experience" to "must have an English coach who can motivate the players". What a joke.

It's not the coach.. it's English football. Tactically naive, arrogant players who equate the size of their pay packets with the size of their talent. And then under-perform on the world stage.

 

[In_The_Rough]

We are not there by choice - it has very little to do with the fact that we have pish players and a crap manager. Much better to get the disappointment over with during qualifying than to qualify and spend months thinking that we could actually win the thing.

Again I do not think we will win the tournament whoever is in charge. However we should do better than we do, like I said to another member on here this is where the Manager comes into play with regards to team selection and not keep picking the same old familiar faces whether they are performing crap or not. With reagrds to getting the dissapointment over with early by not qualifying totally disagree as we do accept failure like that down here which is why we nearly always qualify to just accept defeat like that seems crazy to me. Might see you in Brazil 2014 if we both qualify

 

[bladeplayer]

I have to agree with Smange , I do think he will get the job either now or at the end of the season ,, BUT what has he won of note ? managers & sinking ships were mentioned earlier , remember the Pompey-saints-then pompey again debacle ? harry cant buy foreign players such as modric to solve englands problems .. all english failings are blamed on their managers for some reason ,

how many games have england lost in their last 2 qualifiers.. none i think (will stand corrected) thats because of good players & when they lose its because of poor managers .. whether you like it or not capello has a better winning record than harry ..


Whay has it to be an english manager ? what have english managers achieved in international or club football , Steve Mclaren is prob the most sucessful english manager (winning in holland)
Ye need a manager that wil pick the best team not the best big names .. & as much as our scotish brethern might disagree , the talent is undoubtably there in england.. so bite the bullet & build an international team , pick the young guns for the finals & the world cup qualifiers to give them experience of international football , they could then have the experience yto win the 2016 euros &2018 worlds.. sometime it takes a step back to get moving forward again..

Stuart P to manage for the finals & after it then aswell , let him shape his U21's into a good senior team ..

 

[Shaunmg]

Firstly regarding Capello, whatever you think about him, he is an honourable man of principle. Remember it was him who first removed Terry as captain when the FA dithered and said it was his and his job alone to make that decision, after the Wayne Bridge girlfriend affair . Whilst I think the vile Terry is as guilty as hell, I understand Capello’s principles of innocent until proven guilty. The FA are hypocritical. I also Blame Terry. He should have stood aside from the job until after the case, then none of this would have happened

However the FA should not rush into reappointment. Forget nationality, it must be the best man for the job. All this talk about it must be an English manager is very patriotic and romantic, but not necessarily the most sensible option.

There must be no knee jerk reaction to appoint an English manager. It would be unfair to Spurs to tempt Redknapp away before end of season

Guus Hiddink is available and has proven international credentials. I would offer him a caretaker role until after the euros, with option for him to apply for a contract afterwards. That way the FA keep their options open

 

[smange]

Hiddink on a temp basis for the Euros would be my choice if I was an England supporter. With Pearce working alongside him gaining from his experience then after the Euros appointing Pearce full time. There are a few good young English players at the minute and most of them have worked with Pearce and know him and he knows them. This is how International managers should be picked in my opinion.

I really wish Scotland had done this and gave the job to Billy Stark instead of Levein, Stark has sone a fantastic job with the U21s over the last few years and should have been given a chance to progress onto the first team.

 

[chris661]

If you read all my posts I never said that the England team was good I did however say that we should be a lot better than we are with correct team selections etc which is where the Manager comes into play.

No but you inferred Scotland are crap. Glass houses and all that.

 

[jammag]

Hang on a minute, you are saying it needs to be a good manager, yet cant be someone who has signed players, where as most managers start at club level so would use this facility and signing players to help there team. So in that case you might as well go pull joe bloggs from ragarse rovers as he hasnt signed anyone in 3 years but the team still does well in the league. Thats like saying Mourinho is actually poor as he has signed lots of players where ever he has been. Hiddink had a good record with Russia I believe but he mucked up Turkey I think pretty well. Redknapp won the FA cup with Portsmouth which was a fairly poor side, he has taken Spurs from bottom of the league to the Champions League. You need someone who wants the job.

To me if the players are saying they want an English Manager thats what I would go for. Bring in someone who hasnt been around England for the last few years means they then have to scout the premiership and championship for his squad and get who they want in and develop a squad. At least Redknapp has been around England for the last 8 years and knows a lot of players and how they play. He seems to get the best out of some players and has a good system to get them playing. He has never gone out and bought someone for £40m for the sake of it, he sees a role that needs filling and goes to find the best player he can to fill that role. Which is why I think he would make a good England manager as he wont be afraid of the big personalities and he will get people into good roles.

 

[In_The_Rough]

No but you inferred Scotland are crap. Glass houses and all that.

I did inferr Scotland are crap and they are. I did also criticise the current England team in another post so not glass houses at all. I also said that we should be a lot better than we currently are and I stand by that comment as well.

 

[bladeplayer]

Hang on a minute, you are saying it needs to be a good manager, yet cant be someone who has signed players, where as most managers start at club level so would use this facility and signing players to help there team. So in that case you might as well go pull joe bloggs from ragarse rovers as he hasnt signed anyone in 3 years but the team still does well in the league. Thats like saying Mourinho is actually poor as he has signed lots of players where ever he has been. Hiddink had a good record with Russia I believe but he mucked up Turkey I think pretty well. Redknapp won the FA cup with Portsmouth which was a fairly poor side, he has taken Spurs from bottom of the league to the Champions League. You need someone who wants the job.

To me if the players are saying they want an English Manager thats what I would go for. Bring in someone who hasnt been around England for the last few years means they then have to scout the premiership and championship for his squad and get who they want in and develop a squad. At least Redknapp has been around England for the last 8 years and knows a lot of players and how they play. He seems to get the best out of some players and has a good system to get them playing. He has never gone out and bought someone for £40m for the sake of it, he sees a role that needs filling and goes to find the best player he can to fill that role. Which is why I think he would make a good England manager as he wont be afraid of the big personalities and he will get people into good roles.

Very Valid & very good points well made there Jammag& i agree with them , it was just my opinion harry went where the money was to buy rather than develop or man manage the players he had into the players he needed .. when the money to spend wasnt there neither was harry .. im Irish but will class myself as a football fan & once england aint playing us i like to see them doin well ..

The one thing i dont agree with is foreign managers not knowing english players or game etc . its a world game & top managers know top players & their games inside out .. i dont think english style football will beat spain or argentina etc ..Just curious if you had the choice of Jose or Harry would you still pick harry? , jose has proven himself in english & foreign football

 

[USER1999]

The last people I would ask is the players. They are all lazy, and want someone who will keep picking them, regardless of how badly they perform. Ideally, they want an easy life. Harry will give them that, and all the excuses under the sun.

I would prefer Huddink or Mourinho, as they are strong enough to give the players a hard time, and also to pick on merit. they also have a record of sucessful managment at a high level, which should give them the repsect of the players, and also the media. Hr does not.

 

[jammag]

Mourinho has been offered the job before and turned it down as he felt he could only manage Portugal. Hes quite a tactician but I think if we got the final against Portugal then I would debate where his heart truly was. So personally I would like Redknapp as long as he brings Jordan with him to keep it a tight ship. Hes lived his life alongside the press happy personalities, I dont think he would have any problem in dropping one player, he appears to have a good relationship with the press and doesnt mind speaking to the media and hes usually honest. I dont think he would be in it for the money and I think you want someone whos passionate about the job in hand not the paypacket.

I love the film Mike Bassett England manager and I thought the James Corden sketch were brilliant because it was people who seemed so passionate about England football and it had a feel good factor. I cant stand it when we have had managers in who hide behind there suit and dont mutter 2 words in interviews.

Keegan, Venables, Robson, all managers who showed a bit of passion and were loved I think we need to go back to that whether its Redknapp or Pearce who get the job I think either would do good. Beckham I think would be a good option in the future as he cares about England and has always done things to try get in that side and thats the kind of people we need around that squad.

 

[In_The_Rough]

Pearce has been given temp charge it has been announced, takes over for the Holland game don't know about beyond that

 

[Basher]

Whoever gets the job most certainly HAS to be ENGLISH.
We were dumped out of the last World Cup after a dismal performance. Capello didn't give 2 hoots. He still got his large paycheque.

 

[DarthFader]

Capello's resigned???

So f*****g what.

 

[In_The_Rough]

Capello's resigned???

So f*****g what.

What a well thought out witty input to the thread. Thanks for that:thup:

 

[Deleted member 1418]

Whoever gets the job most certainly HAS to be ENGLISH.

Why? I'm proud to be an Englishman, but to me the job needs to go to the man who can get the most out of the current bunch of overpaid, over-hyped knobs whilst also trying to change the attitudes, approach and development of the future generations at the new FA football centre.

To me there are only two current managers in world football with that pedigree and greatest knowledge of the English game and they are Ferguson and Wenger. Ferguson is way too old and too proud a Scot, but I think Wenger is the perfect man to be in charge. He has managed longer in England than he has in France.

Let Pearce, or if need be Redknapp, take charge of the team on an interim basis until the Euro 2012 campaign is over (let's face it, we're not going to win it) and then bring in Wenger. I can't see him sticking around with Arsenal much longer so the fresh challenge of being in charge of 'Club England' will probably appeal.

 

[In_The_Rough]

Cant see Wenger putting up with all the press aggro linked to the National team to be honest.