Can we be as good as we would like to be?

I agree with Murph and you can get as good as you want to be. I've stagnated over the last 18 months but think I was chasing a "proper" golf swing and not something that works within the flaws I have. We've a few low single figure guys including a top amatuer off +1 and none of them have swings that are easy on the eye or textbook but they know how to get it round.

Now I've found a guy who is prepared to teach within the confines of the raw material available and not try and mould my swing into something it isn't or doesn't last more than a few months before breaking down, I'm going at it with renewed vigour. I think once we get to the short game I'll have the tools to really make an assault on my dream of 10 but its about practicing smart and not anout hitting hundreds of balls blindly. I'll be looking at making sure the summer is about playing and more playing with perhaps only one evening a week focussed on a specific practice regime unless the game is off kilter and I need to look at a problem.

I'm a great believer that in anything you only get out what you put in. I like to think my success last year at St Pierre and FoA were the result of some hard work on the range the week before both events and a well thought out game plan. I was suppose to have a session with a sports psychologist who has worked on the European Tour for my blog but our diaries (his mainly) never met up. Its on the cards this year to sit down and have a chat about what he does and why he thinks it works so well to improve a golfers ability to score. I might even sign up for a session (if I can get a discount )

Ultimately though, unless age or injury prevents, what is there to really stop anyone getting better providing they have a technique that works (not necessarily one that looks good) and they can map a route around the course. Some tuition perhaps to tighten up weaknesses and a desire to practice if necessary but is there really anything else to stop you if you really wanted to play to your true potential
 
I think everyone has a natural degree of talent that will only get you so far. I think most people could reach single figures with little natural ability if they are dedicated enough with practice and listen to what a pro tells them and not change back to their old ways on a bad day. Everyone has weaknesses they see which hinder their quest for a lower handicap. I have shot mid 90's for the last 10 rounds without playing well and that includes a 96 on saturday with 10(yes 10) 3 putts or worse. So thats 11 shots I could easily knock off my score with some actual practice(and a v-easy) and that would hopefully put me around the 15hcp mark. My long time goal is 9, will I get there? Probaly no but its fun trying.
 
Yes absolutely.

We might never become pro or an elite amateur, but with good health, determination and being the right side of sixty low/mid single figures is ready and waiting.

Those with young kids, 60hrs week job, winging wife need not apply. :rofl:
 
I couldnt get below 13 a couple of years ago so I changed my swing. It seems to be paying off and the handicap is dropping.

If I can get to 8 and stay there that will do me.
 
Most people do not achieve their potential because they neither work hard enough, nor are driven enough to achieve it in my view.


The question asked by the op 'Can we be as good as we want to be?' is not necessarily the question I would ask, or have answered. To me, the question is 'can we be as good as we have the potetial to be?'

Great thread.

I'm with Murph in the main.

We can be as good as we want to be, but only if we align our willingness to get there with our expectations. It's dead easy to say "I want to be single figures", much harder to add "and I'm prpeared to do what it takes to get there. If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result then I'll warrant that most of us are guilty at some time.

So I would re-phrase the question. What are you prepared to do to get better, and will you be happy wuith the result? If those two aren't aligned you are destined for unhappiness.

And comparisons with competitions against other golfers not the course don't work here - you can only control what you do, not what others do.
 
I started this thread as insight into what people think about what we want to achieve and what we can achieve. It was sort of an open question and it is good to see some of the replies. There are a lot of factors that stop us from achieving what we would like and some of those we can't change like having a family or a job that takes up too much time. I do think that with the ability to put the time in we can all reach single figures and a lot of us scratch. But is there a barrier there that is natural ability?

If you believe that you can achieve anything by putting in the time and effort then you will see me on SKY Sports in a couple of years. But then again you have to be real about it I do not have the talent to get there. If it was a case of you do not have to have this natural talent then everyone can be a tour pro if they have the time and energy to put in the hours. But the reality is you can't be one as there is something stopping you.

My mate a head pro who I went to school and played golf with as a kid. He would love to go on tour, but it just isn't going to happen. He just does not have the length that is required, his all round game is fantastic but if you are having to hit Driver 4 iron and the bloke next to you is hitting Driver 8 iron who is going to get round the course better. He has tried changing his swing so many times, seen different coaches tried everything but he just can't hit the ball very far. Now is that not a natural ability stopping him? He has tried everything possible to find that extra distance. Before anyone says about the shorter hitters on tour, I am talking about a golfer here that 450 yards is going towards the edge of what he can get in 2 shots. Not much good having to play big par 4's like a par 5 at that level.
 
He has tried everything possible to find that extra distance. Before anyone says about the shorter hitters on tour, I am talking about a golfer here that 450 yards is going towards the edge of what he can get in 2 shots. Not much good having to play big par 4's like a par 5 at that level.

So you're saying he could do with an extra 20yds? :whistle:
 
So you're saying he could do with an extra 20yds? :whistle:

Priceless!!!!!


IMO, age and fitness aside, you can achieve a reduction of 5 off of your HCP. I am expecting to get to 3 this year and feel I am playing good enough to get there now - when fit.

However, the main thing is feeling comfortable when playing to an ability that is considered to be better than where you are now. Did Monty feel comfortable when about to win his first major (numerous times) no, IMO. But dosnt he (or didnt he) hold the record for the joint lowest 4 round total ever in a major (when he lost to Elk in a playoff)?
 
It doesn't matter what's realistically possible. What matters is what goes on between your ear holes. Some of us play golf for the banter and that's great. Others (including myself) enjoy the process of trying to better our golf game. Believing you can always get better is the most important thing, whether or not it's true!

Keep believing it and keep trying. I would give up tomorrow if I found out I couldn't get any better because that's what the game's all about for me. Every 80 could be a 75 and every 70 could be a 68. That's the lure, the constant chance of improving.
 
So you're saying he could do with an extra 20yds? :whistle:

:mmm: Yes he could. He has spent the last 15 years trying to find it. He can swing faster and he just looses all control of the club. So tried changing his swing to adapt to the higher swing speed and it just goes from bad to worse for him. So his natural ability to hit a ball is fantastic and he can easily get round any club course off the white under par, but going off tournament tees he just does not have the length. So to me it is his natural ability that is holding him back.
 
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