Callaway drivers - 24 in 5 years !

During my fitting at silvermere I tried a ping (hated the sound), m2 (didn't like the white) and the epic sub zero.
got the epic as it gave the best numbers by far in low spin, dispersion and distance. Can't see anything knocking that out the bag for a long time
 
Really just proves that when a Pro hits a modern driver out of the middle of the club, you're going to get pretty similar data. I reckon you could test almost any driver from the last 5 years and, when hit from the middle, you'd get the same results. Most of us wouldn't be surprised by that.
A real test of modern drivers would be looking at the off centre hit data, the forgiveness - this is where I feel the only real improvement in drivers has occurred recently.
Another test, using Crash Test Dobby or with Rick and Pete deliberately hitting off centre will, k feel, show a bigger difference between the RAZR and the Epic...
 
Here's the Shiels video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOoyBoHPVzs

Amazing to think how many drivers Callaway have released. Some of these must have really bombed in terms of sales and had a short shelf life

Or

Some of these must have really soared in terms of sales (and sold out the manufactured run to retailers double quick) allowing them to get cracking on the next incarnation


(I have no idea which it was I just don't always look at glass half full)
 
I think the results were pretty predictable from a reasonably consistent ball striker, but I tried, and bought, the 2016 M2 driver because it was up there in distance for me but more particularly because it's one of the easiest drivers (for me) to hit well. I'm sure the SLDR will go just as far but not in my hands.
 
There really wasn't much in it, though. Actually, the RAZR, which was the oldest one tested, came out second in most of the data and was only 7 yards behind the EPIC and XR16 in carry distance. Maybe Rick will have Rob do the test as well, that would give a better insight into forgiveness and how the drivers react to being hit with a slower, probable more "normal" swing speed. But I really think, if you go and buy a five year old model, either used or as demo club, as opposed to a current model, you save about 400 to 500 pounds and get a product that is performing almost as well.
 
I don't think its that bad because it means people who don't want to pay over the odds for the latest driver can get last years model for cheaper

Saying that the TM M2 2016 did they completely dry up the stock? their like gold dust brand new
 
Would have been alright if there wasn't so much hype, would have just been a generic head-to-head type video. He has been hyping it all week sharing pictures of a bag full of drivers, so to only test 5 of them is so disappointing and such a waste of time. Just pure clickbait.
 
Agree about the comments on the latest model crashing the price of the current one is a good thing.

Waiting for 2019 to pick my Epic up for £80.00
 
Agree about the comments on the latest model crashing the price of the current one is a good thing.

Waiting for 2019 to pick my Epic up for £80.00

Indeed. I'm looking at replacing my driver, and something like the R15 seems like a lovely driver, circa 2015 and already £100 or less on ebay. Same with same of the Cobra ones I've been looking at like Biocell and F6.
 
Would have been alright if there wasn't so much hype, would have just been a generic head-to-head type video. He has been hyping it all week sharing pictures of a bag full of drivers, so to only test 5 of them is so disappointing and such a waste of time. Just pure clickbait.

I don't know, I think watching him hit 24 drivers (which are mostly different "flavours" of each other) would habe been a much bigger waste of time. I think choosing one from every year was a pretty good idea. Besides, comparing a low spin "tour" driver model from one year against a standard model from another year does not really make sense, does it?
 
I don't disagree. My issue is with how the video was hyped. He's been hyping the fact he's going to be testing every driver for a week or so now, sharing pictures of them all, thanking Golfbidder for sending him them all, live-streaming before it went up to hype some more and so to tune in and see that all the hype was just a lie designed to get views is very disappointing.
 
I don't know, I think watching him hit 24 drivers (which are mostly different "flavours" of each other) would habe been a much bigger waste of time. I think choosing one from every year was a pretty good idea. Besides, comparing a low spin "tour" driver model from one year against a standard model from another year does not really make sense, does it?

It was the way it was advertised. As Dan has mentioned, he said he would be testing them all and showing pictures of all these different drivers. The point of the video was to see how they all compared against each other. He didn't have to film every shot of every driver either. Could have just shared the results. I do agree that there is no point in testing each version of each model though so I'm glad he left that out.
 
I agree that the advertisement was misleading. But think about it: hitting ten shots with each (which I think is the minimum amount you need to get some statistically relevant results) with 24 drivers would mean 240 drivers hit. If you hit two in a minute, that's two hours straight of ball hitting. Full driver swings. You'd be so tired in the end, that the results really would not be comparable. Hitting them on different days wouldn't be very comparable either ... it is, as Rick himself said in the video, a logistical nightmare. I don't think he thought that much about it beforehand.
 
I agree that the advertisement was misleading. But think about it: hitting ten shots with each (which I think is the minimum amount you need to get some statistically relevant results) with 24 drivers would mean 240 drivers hit. If you hit two in a minute, that's two hours straight of ball hitting. Full driver swings. You'd be so tired in the end, that the results really would not be comparable. Hitting them on different days wouldn't be very comparable either ... it is, as Rick himself said in the video, a logistical nightmare. I don't think he thought that much about it beforehand.
He could have done 10 drivers though to get a few more covered. 10 x 10 hits = 100 balls, so equivalent to a typical driving range session.
 
He should have tested all the drivers from each year to work out which from each year was best for him, then put he best from each year up against each other in the shootout.
Could have spread that out over a few days before the final showdown.

What was interesting, and not mentioned in his video, was that the epic had the lowest average clubhead speed, but the highest average ball speed.
 
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