Brexit Two Months On

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Re: Brexit 4 1\2 Months On

Blue in Munich said:
That was definitely the impression I got, leave and not be ruled from abroad.
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The EU is hardly an invading force, because we joined it voluntarily and have represention within it. Or at least we should have if the UKIP MEP's ever bothered to turn up! If we wish to trade with Europe after a hard or soft Brexit, we will still have to comply with their rules, but with no say in how they are made!
 
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delc said:
The EU is hardly an invading force, because we joined it voluntarily and have represention within it. Or at least we should have if the UKIP MEP's ever bothered to turn up! If we wish to trade with Europe after a hard or soft Brexit, we will still have to comply with their rules, but with no say in how they are made!
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I think you may be missing the point. It's about re-negotiations once we're out. Not about abiding by the current rules. Nobody knows what those negotiations will mean but the pessimistic amongst us appear to think it's going to be worse while the optimist will think it will be better. Perhaps the wise will have the patience to wait and see.
 
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Old Skier said:
I think you may be missing the point. It's about re-negotiations once we're out. Not about abiding by the current rules. Nobody knows what those negotiations will mean but the pessimistic amongst us appear to think it's going to be worse while the optimist will think it will be better. Perhaps the wise will have the patience to wait and see.
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Most of the Brexiters seem to think that the EU is ruled by Angela Merkel and Germany, but up to now we have also been a major player as another net contributor. I get the distinct impression that some of the hard right wing politicians in the Conservative Party and UKIP would rather be at war with Germany, rather than as peaceful allies in the EU!
 
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delc said:
If we wish to trade with Europe after a hard or soft Brexit, we will still have to comply with their rules, but with no say in how they are made!
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I just finished a course in GDPR, the new EU General data protection regulation coming to force in May 2018.
Anyone who sells to an EU country has to follow it. If you have a German web page or a web page selling in Euro, you are actively selling there. If you are a little company selling to UK only and someone from Poland buys from you, you are fine to ignore it.

Most of it is common sense and you would hope that a company here is following it anyway, but now that we 'got back control', until the UK does they own data protection thing, it is a free for all if you don't trade with the EU.

That's for data, there will be similar things in place for other markets.
 
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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
The Remain manifesto might not have been a lot of help - but it was something.
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It was no help!

Focused on the past and spreading fear of the alternative. It gave us pro-Remainers nothing positive to offer as a counter to the arguments of the Leave campaign.

Just old style politics; "We know what is good for you."

This despite the fact that many of the electorate had made it clear that they were tired of being talked down to.
 
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larmen said:
I just finished a course in GDPR, the new EU General data protection regulation coming to force in May 2018.
Anyone who sells to an EU country has to follow it. If you have a German web page or a web page selling in Euro, you are actively selling there. If you are a little company selling to UK only and someone from Poland buys from you, you are fine to ignore it.

Most of it is common sense and you would hope that a company here is following it anyway, but now that we 'got back control', until the UK does they own data protection thing, it is a free for all if you don't trade with the EU.

That's for data, there will be similar things in place for other markets.
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Most of the EU Directives are designed to ensure fair trade practises, and to enforce quality and safety standards. These are unlikely to change very much, so if we wish to trade with the EU we will have to comply with these Directives!
 
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delc said:
Most of the EU Directives are designed to ensure fair trade practises, and to enforce quality and safety standards. These are unlikely to change very much, so if we wish to trade with the EU we will have to comply with these Directives!
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Which is exactly what happens at the moment to non-EU nations such as USA, China etc; so hardly a major difficulty.
 
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delc said:
Most of the Brexiters seem to think that the EU is ruled by Angela Merkel and Germany, but up to now we have also been a major player as another net contributor. I get the distinct impression that some of the hard right wing politicians in the Conservative Party and UKIP would rather be at war with Germany, rather than as peaceful allies in the EU!
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So now your accusing Brexiters of being warmongers as well as racists. Your mates who voted out might be but those I know are not. I suggest you get a new batch of friends on FB.
 
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delc said:
The EU is hardly an invading force, because we joined it voluntarily and have represention within it. Or at least we should have if the UKIP MEP's ever bothered to turn up! If we wish to trade with Europe after a hard or soft Brexit, we will still have to comply with their rules, but with no say in how they are made!
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I never said it was. It's actually more like a club; a golf club if you like.

You join it with your friends on a group deal because it offers want you want, because you're happy to be a member and you find the the costs acceptable. As time goes on, you find the club has changed, you and your friends aren't enjoying it as much as you used to and it's costing you more than you are happy with. You have the option to join the committee and try and change things from the inside, but you are constantly out-voted and overruled. Eventually you face the reality that you either have to continue paying your membership fees to a club you're no longer happy at and just put up with it, or you leave to join another club or even form your own club with your own rules. Members of your old club can visit your new club if they are prepared to abide by the club rules and pay the green fees, just as you can re-visit your old club if you pay the green fee.

It would appear that a majority of us were not happy with what we were offered for our subs and have decided to walk. Because it was a group deal all of your friends have to leave with you, although some of your friends won't want to leave and might apply to re-join the old club on different terms. There is however, no guarantee that they will be successful.

As we are forming a new club we can set our green fees for them visiting us, just as they can set their green fees for our visits. Who knows, we could end up with a County Card rate, a member's guest rate or we might even come up with a reciprocal agreement that mutually benefits both sides…… we won't know until we sit down and discuss it though. Simple enough for you delc?

Old Skier said:
I think you may be missing the point. It's about re-negotiations once we're out. Not about abiding by the current rules. Nobody knows what those negotiations will mean but the pessimistic amongst us appear to think it's going to be worse while the optimist will think it will be better. Perhaps the wise will have the patience to wait and see.
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That wouldn't be the first time……….. :rolleyes:
 
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delc said:
The EU is hardly an invading force, because we joined it voluntarily and have represention within it. Or at least we should have if the UKIP MEP's ever bothered to turn up! If we wish to trade with Europe after a hard or soft Brexit, we will still have to comply with their rules, but with no say in how they are made!
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There is so much wrong with that statement it's probably best to say you don't seem to understand the subject so best for us to ignore it as ignorant.
 
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Yea....finally some Brexit good news.
Experts say inflation will rise to around 4% in 2017.

I just might get a bit of interest on my hard earned savings.
 
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Doon frae Troon said:
Yea....finally some Brexit good news.
Experts say inflation will rise to around 4% in 2017.

I just might get a bit of interest on my hard earned savings.
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That assumes that the BoE base rate also goes up, which is not guaranteed and also bad news for people with mortgages. Also the value of your savings has already been reduced by 18% in real terms by the fall of the Pound!
 
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delc said:
That assumes that the BoE base rate also goes up, which is not guaranteed and also bad news for people with mortgages. Also the value of your savings has already been reduced by 18% in real terms by the fall of the Pound!
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Whilst The Bof E may increase interest rates to stop future inflation, the notion that your savings have reduced by 18% in real terms by the fall of the pound is laughable.

The only way this would happen is if your savings were all in foreign currency .

Most peoples savings are in premium bonds, bank or building society accounts, which are unaffected by exchange rates, Some will have stocks, shares or unit trusts, which have gone up recently, some will have it stuffed under the bed, where inflation (currently low) will have a slight affect.

Maybe if you are a pensioner and you live abroad, your pension may get converted and paid by euros, so that will have fallen, but that is income, not savings.
 
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PhilTheFragger said:
Whilst The Bof E may increase interest rates to stop future inflation, the notion that your savings have reduced by 18% in real terms by the fall of the pound is laughable.

The only way this would happen is if your savings were all in foreign currency .

Most peoples savings are in premium bonds, bank or building society accounts, which are unaffected by exchange rates, Some will have stocks, shares or unit trusts, which have gone up recently, some will have it stuffed under the bed, where inflation (currently low) will have a slight affect.

Maybe if you are a pensioner and you live abroad, your pension may get converted and paid by euros, so that will have fallen, but that is income, not savings.
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Blimey Mr frag ,are you Harold Wilson in disguise??

If all my savings were in foreign, I would now be 18% richer.

And anything I buy that is traded in dollars or euro will now cost 18% more.

Now what trivial and unimportant things does that cover ? Only oil and a good chunk of my food and holidays....
 
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