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Brexit Two Months On
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Vkurup - His point is right though. Don't believe all the polls is the message as people may feel embarrassed telling pollsters they are voting Trump. Trumps core supporters are not necessarily picked up by the spread of people pollsters are going to. Lots in the US are fed up with the establishment, Clinton breathes establishment, and they see Trump as the antidote to that. Very similar to Brexit. I think it is not the worst comparison and they do need something to cling to at the moment. The fact that Trump is still standing after the last two weeks says a great deal about how poor a candidate Clinton is.
What us Remainers supposed to do? Sit on our hands and say nothing while Mrs May & Co drive our Nation over a cliff? I wonder if Leemings have a vote before doing something similar?
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What us Remainers supposed to do? Sit on our hands and say nothing while Mrs May & Co drive our Nation over a cliff? I wonder if Leemings have a vote before doing something similar?
You have already had your vote
Now you sit back and respect democracy and respect the result of the vote
I voted to remain and had my say - that is all anyone has ever asked for. Just because it doesn't go my way doesn't mean we should have another vote and then keep going until it goes my way.
Whilst I firmly believe it's going to be a move that could ruin the country and it will be a vote that many will regret - stamping are little feet with demands to know this and that are just pathetic as is the constant bleating on about the vote.
jp5
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That's ridiculous.
Just because the Tories were voted in with a majority last year doesn't mean everyone else should let them get on with it until 2020.
Opposition pressure has already brought about U-turns on cuts to tax credits, personal independence payments, forced academisation - just off the top of my head.
Democracy is an ongoing process, not a discrete event every so often.
ColchesterFC
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I'm not sure I agree with having a vote on the Brexit agreement. What happens if MP's vote against the Brexit agreement? We leave the EU with no deal agreed and end up with WTO rules and tariffs on trade and no other agreements in any area in place. Surely that can't be good for the country and the government would have had to negotiate a shocking deal with the EU for it to be worse than leaving with no deal in place.
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That's a bit different isn't it though
What the opposite to voting out of EU ? It was a simple question - out or in
The vote has been cast and now we move on and see what happens - negotiations will be done by people
But tell me what me and you can do beyond respecting the vote and waiting to see what transpires ? What has changed or made a difference with the constant bleating from some ? Nothing , nada . Zilch
jp5
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You and I individually have little influence I am sure!
But there are people and organisations which are rightly exerting pressure on shaping the outcome.
It was a tight result, so I'd expect to see these people fight for an outcome that reflects the vote.
But there are people and organisations which are rightly exerting pressure on shaping the outcome.
It was a tight result, so I'd expect to see these people fight for an outcome that reflects the vote.
SocketRocket
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You should get real and face up to the fact that the UK is leaving the EU, moaning and backbiting is a futile exercise in delusion.What us Remainers supposed to do? Sit on our hands and say nothing while Mrs May & Co drive our Nation over a cliff? I wonder if Leemings have a vote before doing something similar?
Your comment regarding driving the country over a cliff is also an exaggeration and pathetically negative.
Regarding that article. It points out that Westminster might get a vote on the final deal but what good is that! It will be matter of leaving with whatever the negotiations achieve or leave with nothing. Either way we will be leaving.
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SocketRocket
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Who are these people. Millaband, Clegg, Mandelson, losers that cant respect the decision of the referendum.
Too much claptrap and gerrymandering is going on by these type of people and it's a sad reflection on Politics and people in general these days. If you lose a fight you pick your self up, dust yourself down, get on with it, learn a lesson and become wiser. The attitudes of so many these days makes me ashamed of what we have become.
Hacker Khan
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Yes, god forbid we have a vote on Brexit that, in the opinion of many economists if it goes one way, may well end up in a poor position for the country. I mean that would never happen.....
Fortunately Mrs May seems to be very risk averse and incapable of making hard decisions, e.g. London's new runway, so maybe there is hope yet!
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The London runway sage has been going on for nearly a decade now and you are having a go at a lady who has only been in office for a couple of months ?!
Maybe she is taking her time to ensure what ever decision is made is the right way as opposed to blundering into something and making a mess of it - imagine that for one min , a PM who is actually thinking about the affects of any decision she or her government might make.
She is a Tory, so that is unlikely!
jp5
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Got to be pretty naive to believe that. Has kicked the decision into the long grass to minimise division while this Brexit mess is sorted out.
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The Government are set to make a decision on the expansion of Heathrow Airport by the end of the month, Downing Street have said.
Number 10 refused to clarify reports that Theresa May had ordered a "short pause" to give ministers a chance to air their views before a final decision is taken on whether to build a new runway at Heathrow or Gatwick.
However, the Prime Minister's official spokeswoman said Mrs May was determined to get the decision "right" so that future generations would get the full benefits of airport expansion.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.st...ll-be-made-later-this-month-a3371531.html?amp
You and Delc aren't labour supporters by any chance
Or sensibly deferred it, not wanting too much financial risk at the same time. Depends entirely what your political leaning is and what spin you want to put on it.
jp5
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Actually you are right - once Brexit is complete we might not need to expand either!
SocketRocket
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My post was about Parliament voting on the outcome of negotiations between the UK and EU. I take it from your post you concede you were wrong and will move on to another negative piece of balderdash
SocketRocket
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And you are an armchair Socialist so your opinion on her is unlikely to be based on anything of much substance.
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