Brexit Two Months On

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Precisely.

precisely mistaken - what I said was specific in excluding anything about the negotiating hand or objectives.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

You are putting A LOT of trust in the integrity of Civil Servants!

Generally, such trust is well founded - even if the policy they are implementing isn't something they believe in!

However, Brexit is a 'project' that could well be an expensive mess! Along similar lines to some of the disastrous, wastefully, expensive problems that some NHS Trusts have experienced! the Civil Service has not got a great reputation for decent performance in 'project' type activities - with 'consultants' having too much influence, to the detriment of the project, but at considerable profit to the consultants!!

I would like to see some sort of budget, plan and occasional progress reports, even if it is simply via the Select Committee process - a much underestimated (and occasionally abused) process of UK Government!

Precisely!

 

[FairwayDodger]

It would certainly be ironic if the UK voting to leave the EU led to the sort of reforms that would make the EU the sort of organisation that would be attractive for the UK to be a member of. What odds on a new referendum a few years down the line asking whether the UK should join the newly reformed EU?

I'm pretty certain we'll be back in at some point....

 

[USER1999]

I'm pretty certain we'll be back in at some point....

Still won't mean it wasn't the right decision to leave though.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I'm pretty certain we'll be back in at some point....

I don't think we shall even leave.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I don't think we shall even leave.

I think we will - but I hope that Leavers are somewhat disappointed by the terms upon which we do.

 

[USER1999]

I don't think we shall even leave.

That depends how you define leaving. Soft brexit, no, we haven't left, hard brexit, yep, we are out. Some sort of Brexit, yep, it's going to happen. Has to now . We are too far down that road already.

 

[SocketRocket]

That depends how you define leaving. Soft brexit, no, we haven't left, hard brexit, yep, we are out. Some sort of Brexit, yep, it's going to happen. Has to now . We are too far down that road already.

I've said before that IMO there is no such thing as 'Soft Brexit' . Brexit means we leave the EU and whether the terms we leave on allow Tariff free trade without any other stipulations is up to the EU, I guess they wont want this so there will be no option but what is being labeled as Hard Brexit ; which is not Hard, it's just Brexit.

 

[SocketRocket]

I don't think we shall even leave.

So can you justify that statement?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Good to see David Coburn is considering running for the UKIP leadership.
The Scottish Brexit leader has excellent qualities that I shall fully support.
Just the man that the UK wants in it's hour of dire needs.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

So can you justify that statement?

Yes, I see it in the stars.

 

[SocketRocket]

I have just seen an interesting comment posted on a local newspaper site regarding trade deals post-Brexit. The suggestion was that the EU could stop other countries from negotiating free trade deals with the UK and force them to impose tariffs by threatening those countries own trade deals with the EU. Obviously with the EU market place being a much bigger market than the UK this could have an impact on those other countries and our negotiations with them.

This post isn't meant to be used as scaremongering, I just wondered if anyone knew if this was even a possibility or if the UK can do anything about it if it were to happen.

I am unsure of the actual legal implications but I cannot see that the EU could stop any trade deals between the UK as an independent country and other countries outside the EU. That would be a very dangerous policy that could escalate into some serious conflicts.

 

[SocketRocket]

Yes, I see it in the stars.

I will take that as a No then. Nothing out of the normal for you.

 

[Hobbit]

I will take that as a No then. Nothing out of the normal for you.

Surely you've worked out he's a soft troll

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Surely you've worked out he's a soft troll

Is a soft troll not just a gonk?

 

[Hobbit]

Is a soft troll not just a gonk?

Crikey, I've not heard them called gonks for years.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Surely you've worked out he's a soft troll

Spoilsport.

Or maybees it has something to do with the PM saying she can't stop MP's blocking the 'Full English'.

£ soaring from it's near 20% fall on this news.

 

[Deleted member 1418]

UK trade in food and agricultural produce is going down the drain!

http://www.thefishsite.com/fishnews...ches-export-plan-for-uk-agricultural-produce/

 

[Doon frae Troon]

UK trade in food and agricultural produce is going down the drain!

http://www.thefishsite.com/fishnews...ches-export-plan-for-uk-agricultural-produce/

Looking good for Jam tomorrow though.

 

[vkurup]

Watching the build up to the third debate between Clinton and the Muppet on Fox News in my hotel room in NY. The Republican strategist made me spit out when he said.. 'Guys, let's not forget this is a Brexit election year and we see how people vote.. Trump will win this election.. ' I thought I mis heard but he kept repeating it a few times..