Brexit - The negotiations.

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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Well just heard reported that Barnier has contracted coronavirus - and some sickos texting that that is the best news they've heard for weeks. The same folks are probably giving thumbs up to Trump's 'it's what I prefer to accurately call the China/Chinese Virus'...
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Really? I guess it takes all kind of people to make this world
 
Is Brexit really important right now in the grand scheme of things.. Imo No its not, we need to focus on the country coming together to support the vulnerable and get through a very testing time as one nation, then and only then should we pursue the other elephant in the room. Obviously some will disagree with me on that but its just my opinion that what we're currently facing takes the focus. As for the morons and comments re Barnier contracting it that just shows what scum some people are.
 
Wolf said:
Is Brexit really important right now in the grand scheme of things.. Imo No its not, we need to focus on the country coming together to support the vulnerable and get through a very testing time as one nation, then and only then should we pursue the other elephant in the room. Obviously some will disagree with me on that but its just my opinion that what we're currently facing takes the focus. As for the morons and comments re Barnier contracting it that just shows what scum some people are.
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I litterally think everything needs a pin in it right now

Football season
Brexit
School years

Pin the lot

Deal with what happens after this

Focus on getting people paid etc so they don't lose their home be that rent or not

But the other stuff.. really doesn't matter right now
 
Wolf said:
Is Brexit really important right now in the grand scheme of things.. Imo No its not, we need to focus on the country coming together to support the vulnerable and get through a very testing time as one nation, then and only then should we pursue the other elephant in the room. Obviously some will disagree with me on that but its just my opinion that what we're currently facing takes the focus. As for the morons and comments re Barnier contracting it that just shows what scum some people are.
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Whilst I 100% agree. The time between postponing Brexit and the first w%nkspangle posting on Facebook that the Coronavirus is all one big EU plot to keep us in Europe would be best measured in milliseconds.. Oh well, at least they won't be marching together in the streets to bitch about it!
 
pauljames87 said:
I litterally think everything needs a pin in it right now

Football season
Brexit
School years

Pin the lot

Deal with what happens after this

Focus on getting people paid etc so they don't lose their home be that rent or not

But the other stuff.. really doesn't matter right now
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Exactly right. These and the health of the nation are the only things of relevance.
 
Wolf said:
Is Brexit really important right now in the grand scheme of things.. Imo No its not, we need to focus on the country coming together to support the vulnerable and get through a very testing time as one nation, then and only then should we pursue the other elephant in the room. Obviously some will disagree with me on that but its just my opinion that what we're currently facing takes the focus. As for the morons and comments re Barnier contracting it that just shows what scum some people are.
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Its just as important as it was before the pandemic. We will all need jobs and businesses to function once on the 'other side'. We can't just fight the crocodiles nearest the canoe !!
 
bluewolf said:
Whilst I 100% agree. The time between postponing Brexit and the first w%nkspangle posting on Facebook that the Coronavirus is all one big EU plot to keep us in Europe would be best measured in milliseconds.. Oh well, at least they won't be marching together in the streets to bitch about it!
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Sadly the world is full of moronic fun sponges that love a good conspiracy theory and those dickheads will open the floodgates once this is over as Tory or Euro government biological warfare weapon used to cripple economic stability in order to stop brexit. Also sadly there's gonna be many a muppet that believes it because it was said in twitter or Facebook ??‍♂️
 
robinthehood said:
Hmmm noble sentiments, but it's still a big deal and isn't going away ......
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drdel said:
Its just as important as it was before the pandemic. We will all need jobs and businesses to function once on the 'other side'. We can't just fight the crocodiles nearest the canoe !!
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To answer both replies in one go. Never said it was going away , i merely am of the opinion this current crisis the government is addressing is a greater priority. They cannot address business functions or jobs until the Corona virus threat to jobs is addressed first regardless of brexit. Just my opinion of course.
 
robinthehood said:
Hmmm noble sentiments, but it's still a big deal and isn't going away ......
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Yup. The UK is spending as necessary (rightly) to protect peoples' health but we need to protect the UK's wealth and future because, inevitably, the debts will need to be settled.
 
drdel said:
Yup. The UK is spending as necessary (rightly) to protect peoples' health but we need to protect the UK's wealth and future because, inevitably, the debts will need to be settled.
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But do we need to progress with both at the same time? Or, could we postpone Brexit for 12 months whilst we deal with the current Pandemic, then restart the negotiations when we're out of the worst of it?
 
I'd expect in reality it's going to be postponed for a few months as I can't see there will be time for the government and civil service to deal with Corona and Brexit at the same time. As whilst a lot of massive decisions to our way of life are (finally) being made very quickly by the government which is great, there is an absolute shed load of work needed to implement them all to prevent society and the economy going properly tits up. Same in the EU as I can't see them having much appetite to spend any time on negotiations with whats happening in some of their countries.
 
bluewolf said:
But do we need to progress with both at the same time? Or, could we postpone Brexit for 12 months whilst we deal with the current Pandemic, then restart the negotiations when we're out of the worst of it?
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Over reaction. It is not the time for 'headless chicken' behaviour. Government, HoC and respective Departments have the capacity to run the country.
 
Wolf said:
Sadly the world is full of moronic fun sponges that love a good conspiracy theory and those dickheads will open the floodgates once this is over as Tory or Euro government biological warfare weapon used to cripple economic stability in order to stop brexit.
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Whereas everyone really knows the truth. It's a conspiracy between Greta Thunberg and Battersea Dogs Home. I seen the advice that as part of staying healthy while you're working from home you have to take the dog for a walk in the morning. I don't have a dog so now I'm going to have to go and get one. And obviously Greta has been banging on about the need to reduce air travel and pollution and hey presto, she releases a virus which grounds almost all flights and drastically reduces pollution due to industry stopping/slowing down.

Right I'm off to put my tinfoil hat back on.
 
Also I really can't see the government wanting another potential major economic shock happening soon. I am sure the world will calm down in a few weeks/months and the infection rates will be stabilized and it will become manageable, but until a vaccine is found the current thinking is that globally we will still need some pretty severe containment measures in place to stop it blowing up again. So I can't see the economy recovering that much, plus chuff knows how much we will end up borrowing to get us through this. So are they really going to risk another massive impact on our economy this year?
 
In a perverse way, this virus is uniting everyone. This week while wfh, i have spoken to my neigbhours, offered to get their groceries and have everyone's contact detail on a whatsapp group. Brexit hasnt even figured in our conversation. In contrast the Christmas party on the street was all about overthrowing those EU fellos or will i go to Alicante again. now people are more likely worried about their distant cousin or friend in Italy/spain/ireland etc.
 
Hacker Khan said:
Also I really can't see the government wanting another potential major economic shock happening soon. I am sure the world will calm down in a few weeks/months and the infection rates will be stabilized and it will become manageable, but until a vaccine is found the current thinking is that globally we will still need some pretty severe containment measures in place to stop it blowing up again. So I can't see the economy recovering that much, plus chuff knows how much we will end up borrowing to get us through this. So are they really going to risk another massive impact on our economy this year?
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It’s not really about the economy.. you or me it’s about big money. They traded before it hit the fan, they then got the journos to make wide spread panic .. forcing the markets down and allowing them to pop in some of their gains back in.
They now have a substantial nest egg for Brexit and have created a bigger gap to the haves and have nots ..
Such a conspiracy theory I know but the timings have been delayed to allow all of them to profit. Why did the stock exchange carry on trading when it was evident that all values would drop with extended trading ? Why did it not self isolate to maintain value ? In the grand scheme of things the stock exchange has a minimal impact to common folk ..they are just victims of its fluctuations it’s actual existence is about making a select few rich. So if it stopped would the supermarkets be empty? No. Would existing stock prices be impacted no, you would still be getting your payouts but the fluctuation would be minimal after a brief period of non trading.. so isolating for a week or when it hits a drop rate too great will only be beneficial to the small investors not the greedy ones.
I think we have learnt that turning stuff off doesn’t stop the world turning, the greedy lose money, and the environment improves.
The greedy do become more evident in our society, some are hiding behind social empathy and others have well and truly broken cover.
 
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