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Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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SocketRocket said:
Give it a break, I thought we had got over calling people thick for their voting preferences.
Its too easy, pick out someone who's obviously got learning difficulties then try to make them look stupid. Then some cretins put it on their social media to give the impression everyone who voted for Brexit is thick ?
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Sorry but when was it decided that they “obviously have learning difficulties” - is that the case of the thousands of videos all over social media with people responding in same vein ? You can keep denying it but there is clearly many who were sucked in by many lies and no doubt on both sides but now it’s the promises of Johnson and his team to bring all the good back to the UK - everyone is now expecting all the laws to go back , remove all the European Laws , Industry to come booming back , the NHS to get a big funding jncrease , multiple trade deals for the benefit of the UK without having to sell out.

Right now the UK still need to abide by E.U. laws etc without having a say in them

It’s now time to deliver and quickly- if things don’t turn out well it’s not going to be long before the calls to go back to the E.U. start and this time on their terms.

Country has a huge divide - one side needs to stand up now and show us all how great it is out of the EU
 
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Liverpoolphil said:
It’s now time to deliver and quickly- if things don’t turn out well it’s not going to be long before the calls to go back to the E.U. start and this time on their terms.

Country has a huge divide - one side needs to stand up now and show us all how great it is out of the EU
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We've only been out 14:42 mins
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Country has a huge divide - one side needs to stand up now and show us all how great it is out of the EU
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And the other side needs to do their bit to make it work.
We're out
It's time to make the best of it
If both sides don't get behind it then it will fail.
Life goes on.
People need to stop arguing/stressing about not getting their way and get on with their lives.
Good things and bad things have been happening to this country since it began and they'll continue to happen whether were in the EU or not.
We've overcome desperate times and enjoyed good times
That wont change.
 
bobmac said:
We've only been out 14:42 mins
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Sorry I’m not sure the point ?
Hobbit said:
Interesting thought that "one side has to stand up and show us all how great it is outside the EU..." sounds awfully petulant to me.
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Not at all - we have been sold the vision that we can be great outside the E.U. on our own - the people that sold that vision to others are the ones that need to bring the reality to it it - been lots of talk and promises over the last 3 years , is it not now time for those words to come to fruition over the next 11 months ?
Imurg said:
And the other side needs to do their bit to make it work.
We're out
It's time to make the best of it
If both sides don't get behind it then it will fail.
Life goes on.
People need to stop arguing/stressing about not getting their way and get on with their lives.
Good things and bad things have been happening to this country since it began and they'll continue to happen whether were in the EU or not.
We've overcome desperate times and enjoyed good times
That wont change.
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We are talking government here btw - they are the ones who have the ability to make things work - the common folk will go to work , earn their money , feed their families and rinse repeat - the same as what most of us have done over the past ten years - the only people that can have an affect on that is our government - the ball in in their court and Boris Johnson is holding the racquet - he wanted this ( well he didn’t at first and then turned when he saw a chance to further his career ) so it’s up to him to drive it on.

The people could only vote one way or the other - and based on the information given , as can be seen a lot of people now have high expectations of the future and the expect the people they voted for to deliver that.

People will constantly argue or debate everything regardless of is being in the E.U. or not - that’s just life - fantasy land if people are expecting others to just stop talking about it. It has the potential to get even worse of the months/years.
 
Imurg said:
And the other side needs to do their bit to make it work.
We're out
It's time to make the best of it
If both sides don't get behind it then it will fail.
Life goes on.
People need to stop arguing/stressing about not getting their way and get on with their lives.
Good things and bad things have been happening to this country since it began and they'll continue to happen whether were in the EU or not.
We've overcome desperate times and enjoyed good times
That wont change.
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Some people see a silver lining, an exciting new opportunity and a glass half full.
Others unfortunately don't.
It must be terrible to always look for the worst case scenario.

So to all those who tried to thwart Brexit, unfortunately it didn't work so why not channel your energies into making a brighter future and healing the divide you keep reminding the country about.
The alternative is you want Brexit to be a disaster just so you can say ''I told you so''. I hope that's not the case.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Sorry I’m not sure the point ?


Not at all - we have been sold the vision that we can be great outside the E.U. on our own - the people that sold that vision to others are the ones that need to bring the reality to it it - been lots of talk and promises over the last 3 years , is it not now time for those words to come to fruition over the next 11 months ?


We are talking government here btw - they are the ones who have the ability to make things work - the common folk will go to work , earn their money , feed their families and rinse repeat - the same as what most of us have done over the past ten years - the only people that can have an affect on that is our government - the ball in in their court and Boris Johnson is holding the racquet - he wanted this ( well he didn’t at first and then turned when he saw a chance to further his career ) so it’s up to him to drive it on.

The people could only vote one way or the other - and based on the information given , as can be seen a lot of people now have high expectations of the future and the expect the people they voted for to deliver that.

People will constantly argue or debate everything regardless of is being in the E.U. or not - that’s just life - fantasy land if people are expecting others to just stop talking about it. It has the potential to get even worse of the months/years.
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I am sorry to be rude but I think that you are being daft because by hanging onto the past 40 years you are failing to recognise that the EU's future path is based on unsustainable debt and protectionism. In the modern word that is an outdated strategy which will damage the major EU members' ability to respond.
 
bobmac said:
Some people see a silver lining, an exciting new opportunity and a glass half full.
Others unfortunately don't.
It must be terrible to always look for the worst case scenario.

So to all those who tried to thwart Brexit, unfortunately it didn't work so why not channel your energies into making a brighter future and healing the divide you keep reminding the country about.
The alternative is you want Brexit to be a disaster just so you can say ''I told you so''. I hope that's not the case.
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I very much doubt anyone wants anything to fail - that would be a case of cutting your nose off , I certainly don’t want to see the UK fail because it will affect us very directly and certainly I hope there is no “I told you so from either side”

People can only form an opinion on what they see can happen in the future - no one knows 100% what’s going to happen regardless of any “projections” - I hope it’s a roaring success and on a personal basis we replace the lost contacts with bigger ones - but if it doesn’t work then it’s going to be a case of swallowing pride and looking for alternatives and that may mean rejoining the E.U. - I hope it doesn’t come to that because we would have lost all our vetoes etc

As for “thwarting” Brexit - only people who had the ability to thwart anything were the MP’s - they had the power - we just had a single vote

In regards the divide - countries been divided for a long time - north and south , rich and poor , Tory and labour , England and Scotland or Wales or NI - divides are always going to be there regardless of what happens right now or in the future. The only time the UK joins is when attacked during war ( so not since WW2 ) - everything is all now on a personal basis , everything is all about the self and very much less about fellow human beings.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I very much doubt anyone wants anything to fail - that would be a case of cutting your nose off , I certainly don’t want to see the UK fail because it will affect us very directly and certainly I hope there is no “I told you so from either side”

People can only form an opinion on what they see can happen in the future - no one knows 100% what’s going to happen regardless of any “projections” - I hope it’s a roaring success and on a personal basis we replace the lost contacts with bigger ones - but if it doesn’t work then it’s going to be a case of swallowing pride and looking for alternatives and that may mean rejoining the E.U. - I hope it doesn’t come to that because we would have lost all our vetoes etc

As for “thwarting” Brexit - only people who had the ability to thwart anything were the MP’s - they had the power - we just had a single vote

In regards the divide - countries been divided for a long time - north and south , rich and poor , Tory and labour , England and Scotland or Wales or NI - divides are always going to be there regardless of what happens right now or in the future. The only time the UK joins is when attacked during war ( so not since WW2 ) - everything is all now on a personal basis , everything is all about the self and very much less about fellow human beings.
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Ok, what have you done with the real LP? The above is as good as anything you've ever posted by a country mile.

You are right, its now up to the govt of the day, irrespective of the individual 'leanings' of any MP to make the very best of what's in front of them. And the referendum voters from both sides will hold them to account at the ballot box if they don't deliver.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
the only people that can have an affect on that is our government
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I don't agree.
If Johnny foreigner investor is looking for somewhere to invest and he sees Britain still squabbling about Brexit months later, he could be excused for taking his money elsewhere.
If people used their social media to show a united Britain, Johnny foreiner might be tempted to invest.
So by getting rid of the negativity and doom and gloom stuff on twitter/FB/Instagram etc, the public can make a difference.

The BBC interview with Stacey and Tracey above was chosen deliberately to show leavers in a certain light.
Very poor from the BBC

''It has the potential to get even worse of the months/years.''

See what I mean about worst case scenario?
 
bobmac said:
I don't agree.
If Johnny foreigner investor is looking for somewhere to invest and he sees Britain still squabbling about Brexit months later, he could be excused for taking his money elsewhere.
If people used their social media to show a united Britain, Johnny foreiner might be tempted to invest.
So by getting rid of the negativity and doom and gloom stuff on twitter/FB/Instagram etc, the public can make a difference.
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You really think that “Johnny foreigner” who is looking for invest will care about how people interact on social media ?!!!!

They will be looking to invest based on what profit they could gain - financial decisions and also how the UK on a business level with its neighbours.

The BBC interview with Stacey and Tracey above was chosen deliberately to show leavers in a certain light.
Very poor from the BBC
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Chosen by who exactly ? It was live and multiple broadcast companies were there asking many questions - all the clips are out there , have a watch ? There is one that I can’t post on here from an Irish company who was presenting live and some nice Englishmen decided to shout out some lovely comments.
These are from people who “won”

''It has the potential to get even worse of the months/years.''

See what I mean about worst case scenario?
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Many scenarios out there - would be daft not to understand that things have the potential to get worse over the next coming months and years.
 
Foreign investment into the UK.

Rather than look at Brexit as Armageddon, have a look at the foreign investment trends/values.

1) Investment from the US in the last 2 years has sky rocketed.
2) Investment from the EU has remained the same, on average, for the last 6 years, although 2 years ago year saw a massive hike it dropped back to previous levels - it hasn't gone down.
3) Investment from Asia has continued to rise exponentially since 2014.
4) Investment from the rest of the world has continued to rise.

The drop in investment from the EU 2 years ago has been more than covered by the massive investments from the US. All this while investment from elsewhere has continued to rise.
 
SocketRocket said:
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Give it a break, I thought we had got over calling people thick for their voting preferences.
Its too easy, pick out someone who's obviously got learning difficulties then try to make them look stupid. Then some cretins put it on their social media to give the impression everyone who voted against Brexit is thick ?
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Give it a break, I thought we had got over calling people thick for their voting preferences.
Its too easy, pick out someone who's obviously got learning difficulties then try to make them look stupid. Then some cretins put it on their social media to give the impression everyone who voted against Brexit is thick ?
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Just showing you how pathetic it is putting up videos like this.
Maybe my next post should be to see how many of your bucket list you have transgressed yourself. ?
 
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