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Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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She seems to think the EU is a Nation.

Farage has achieved his goal, I'm pleased you are proud of it.

Not sure what it was about what she said that makes it that she thinks the EU is a nation.

He and his lot think they are just oh so clever with this sort of what I consider to be utterly shameful childish behaviour. British? I thought we were a bit better than that sort of thing...but clearly some of us aren't. Pretty relieved they don't represent us any more. A plus I guess from us leaving.
 
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Not sure what it was about what she said that makes it that she thinks the EU is a nation.

He and his lot think they are just oh so clever with this sort of what I consider to be utterly shameful childish behaviour. British? I thought we were a bit better than that sort of thing...but clearly some of us aren't. Pretty relieved they don't represent us any more. A plus I guess from us leaving.
She said we should not hate any Nation, Is she not referring to the EU.

He said we look forward to working with you in the future, nothing wrong with that. As to waving flags, I thought the EU liked people having flags.
 

How proud we must all be of the way this man represented us as a MEP

There is a way to act and show a bit of humility and class when we leave the EU , Farage just showed the total opposite.

Good words from the VP at the end


What a clown... I dont think he represents any Remainer or Leaver.... he works for himself and they should cancel his MEP pension (not that he needs it)

BTW, what is the difference between 'leaving the EU' and not being a 'european citizen' ... I understand we are still part of 'Europe' as a continent but that does not guarantee similar treatment as 'being European' (as we knew before 2020). There are countries in Europe but not considered 'pre 2020 European' e.g. Macedonia, Albania, Turkey?, Russia?

After Dec 2020, we will have the same status as Turkey, Kosovo or Macedonia ... (let that sink in for a min while i put on my flame suit)
 
What a clown... I dont think he represents any Remainer or Leaver.... he works for himself and they should cancel his MEP pension (not that he needs it)

BTW, what is the difference between 'leaving the EU' and not being a 'european citizen' ... I understand we are still part of 'Europe' as a continent but that does not guarantee similar treatment as 'being European' (as we knew before 2020). There are countries in Europe but not considered 'pre 2020 European' e.g. Macedonia, Albania, Turkey?, Russia?

After Dec 2020, we will have the same status as Turkey, Kosovo or Macedonia ... (let that sink in for a min while i put on my flame suit)

Brexit is a process that has now started. When in the EU our economic contribution exceeded 18 of the other members yet Brussels continually ignored our advice.

We have some great people, and some world leading companies/organisations and Universities who will work hard for the benefit of us all.
So I fail to see why some make these illogical comparisons while feeling the need to try and put down our country. The UK is a successful nation our economy: 6th in the world, our society is one of the most civilised and environmentally aware and responsible.
 
BTW, what is the difference between 'leaving the EU' and not being a 'european citizen' ... I understand we are still part of 'Europe' as a continent but that does not guarantee similar treatment as 'being European' (as we knew before 2020). There are countries in Europe but not considered 'pre 2020 European' e.g. Macedonia, Albania, Turkey?, Russia?

After Dec 2020, we will have the same status as Turkey, Kosovo or Macedonia ... (let that sink in for a min while i put on my flame suit)
I'm not following your point. What 'status' does Switzerland and Norway have?

Surely being a European citizen is because you are in a country that is part of Europe (the continent). Whereas being a citizen of a country that is a member of the EU, you might abbreviate to an 'EU citizen'
 
What a clown... I dont think he represents any Remainer or Leaver.... he works for himself and they should cancel his MEP pension (not that he needs it)

BTW, what is the difference between 'leaving the EU' and not being a 'european citizen' ... I understand we are still part of 'Europe' as a continent but that does not guarantee similar treatment as 'being European' (as we knew before 2020). There are countries in Europe but not considered 'pre 2020 European' e.g. Macedonia, Albania, Turkey?, Russia?

After Dec 2020, we will have the same status as Turkey, Kosovo or Macedonia ... (let that sink in for a min while i put on my flame suit)
I'll have probably taken up my option of being French by then ?
 
What a clown... I dont think he represents any Remainer or Leaver.... he works for himself and they should cancel his MEP pension (not that he needs it)

BTW, what is the difference between 'leaving the EU' and not being a 'european citizen' ... I understand we are still part of 'Europe' as a continent but that does not guarantee similar treatment as 'being European' (as we knew before 2020). There are countries in Europe but not considered 'pre 2020 European' e.g. Macedonia, Albania, Turkey?, Russia?

After Dec 2020, we will have the same status as Turkey, Kosovo or Macedonia ... (let that sink in for a min while i put on my flame suit)
You mean the same status as most countries in the World. Not a member of the EU. Maybe being a member put us in a minority category.
 
In related news regarding trusting the public to make the right choice given a difficult choice, I see Mrs Browns Boys won best comedy at the National television awards. ?
That's right, theyre all stupid cretins who see parellels between Mrs Browns Boys and trading arrangements ?
 
Brexit is a process that has now started. When in the EU our economic contribution exceeded 18 of the other members yet Brussels continually ignored our advice.

We have some great people, and some world leading companies/organisations and Universities who will work hard for the benefit of us all.
So I fail to see why some make these illogical comparisons while feeling the need to try and put down our country. The UK is a successful nation our economy: 6th in the world, our society is one of the most civilised and environmentally aware and responsible.

We were 5th before June 16. Also economy size matters little to the man in the street or the family unit, what matters more is living standards. That's what really counts - in UK all the wealth is held by the very few. If a country is 6th largest economy does it not stand to reason that average standard of living should at least be top 10? We're miles off that with a massive imbalance to SE England too. You'd be better in a country that looks after all it's people and doesn't have delusions of it's own importance because it once was a world power.....imho.
 
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It is a rarely acknowledged fact that the UK has actually had an Oz-inspired system since 2008, first launched by New Labour under Tony Blair. No Brexit is required to run a points-based system after all.

I think i raised this many moons ago on this forum but got a kicking. I know numerous folks that have used the PBS in the Tech and Medical sectors - used to make me chuckle everytime BoJo and folks mentioned it. I guess we are in the post-truth world, so throwing more facts into the debate will only get you fired.
 
It is a rarely acknowledged fact that the UK has actually had an Oz-inspired system since 2008, first launched by New Labour under Tony Blair. No Brexit is required to run a points-based system after all.

I think i raised this many moons ago on this forum but got a kicking. I know numerous folks that have used the PBS in the Tech and Medical sectors - used to make me chuckle everytime BoJo and folks mentioned it. I guess we are in the post-truth world, so throwing more facts into the debate will only get you fired.
i wonder who that could have been;)
 
It is a rarely acknowledged fact that the UK has actually had an Oz-inspired system since 2008, first launched by New Labour under Tony Blair. No Brexit is required to run a points-based system after all.

I think i raised this many moons ago on this forum but got a kicking. I know numerous folks that have used the PBS in the Tech and Medical sectors - used to make me chuckle everytime BoJo and folks mentioned it. I guess we are in the post-truth world, so throwing more facts into the debate will only get you fired.
A bit like talking up of removal, once we leave the EU, of the 2000 cap and £50k requirement currently applied to one type of immigrant - a cap and a constraint unilaterally (as I understand it) put in place by the UK government and that were nothing to do with the EU. A great soundbite though.
 
We were 5th before June 16. Also economy size matters little to the man in the street or the family unit, what matters more is living standards. That's what really counts - in UK all the wealth is held by the very few. If a country is 6th largest economy does it not stand to reason that average standard of living should at least be top 10? We're miles off that with a massive imbalance to SE England too. You'd be better in a country that looks after all it's people and doesn't have delusions of it's own importance because it once was a world power.....imho.
Like Russia? China? Venezuela? Come on dont keep us guessing ?
 
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