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Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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what if ‘our’ fleet is actually owned by ‘them’?? Wasn’t there a documentary that showed more than half of Brit flagged vessels were owned by Europeans.. I am assuming we can nationalise these easily
I think youre getting confused with the likes of oil tankers, container ships and passenger liners. We don't fish with them.
 
I'm surprised how ignorant some are on here about the U.K. s fishing quotas and the demise of the fishing industry.
For your average under 10m small scale fisherman brexit won't help them.
 
I'm aquaman
Yes I had a feeling you were a bit sharky.
Anyhow, our fishing industry has been devistated by the EUs quota system and countries like Spain and France who have destroyed fish stocks in the Mediterranean are now doing it in our waters, the EU quota system has resulted in a UK fishing industry that has been brought to its knees and their towns and communities left to rot just like the fish they are forced to throw back dead into the sea.

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/6092/the_eu_s_betrayal_of_britain_s_fishing_industry
 
Yes I had a feeling you were a bit sharky.
Anyhow, our fishing industry has been devistated by the EUs quota system and countries like Spain and France who have destroyed fish stocks in the Mediterranean are now doing it in our waters, the EU quota system has resulted in a UK fishing industry that has been brought to its knees and their towns and communities left to rot just like the fish they are forced to throw back dead into the sea.

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/6092/the_eu_s_betrayal_of_britain_s_fishing_industry

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10096649

I believe there is lots of research that counters your belief and that the decline in the fishing industry started before CFP was introduced and it was poor management before that - and in fact the CFP has helped the stock be more sustainable

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....shermen-fishing-industry-quotas-uk-government
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10096649

I believe there is lots of research that counters your belief and that the decline in the fishing industry started before CFP was introduced and it was poor management before that - and in fact the CFP has helped the stock be more sustainable

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....shermen-fishing-industry-quotas-uk-government

A counter argument...

https://www.debatingeurope.eu/focus...nst-the-common-fisheries-policy/#.XiTcMm5Fw2w

There's also an interesting piece kicking about that talks about EU fishing fleets fishing further afield on the back of dubious agreements with non-EU countries. Also, its worth a look at how much progress the EU had made in banning large, commercial drift net fishing. At a cost of around €5billion a year the EU has achieved little in terms of protecting fishing communities, only helping big commercial fleets.
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10096649

I believe there is lots of research that counters your belief and that the decline in the fishing industry started before CFP was introduced and it was poor management before that - and in fact the CFP has helped the stock be more sustainable

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....shermen-fishing-industry-quotas-uk-government
The UK is allowed 40% of the fishing quota in its territorial waters. I don't think that's OK.
Heres a video that discusses these issues.
 
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The UK is allowed 40% of the fishing quota in its territorial waters. I don't think that's OK.
Heres a video that discusses these issues.


Cant comment on the veracity of this source... but makes interesting reading,

Meanwhile, in England nearly 80% of fishing quota is held by foreign owners or domestic Rich List families, and more than half of Northern Ireland’s quota is hoarded onto a single trawler.
https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2018/10/11/fishing-quota-uk-defra-michael-gove/
 
Houses of Parliament split in two with House of Lords relocated to York? And so we would have two permanent Houses - both permanently maintained, serviced, manned and provisioned with Lords, Ladies and staff forming a 'travelling circus' (Daily Telegraph description of those alternating between Strasbourg and Brussels) commuting from London, and wherever, to York on a daily or weekly basis. And meanwhile the House of Lords in Westminster must continue to be maintained.

Whether a good idea or not, it most certainly is full of irony given the noisy fuss made by some over the cost of elements of the EU governance alternating between Strasbourg and Brussels.
 
Houses of Parliament split in two with House of Lords relocated to York? And so we would have two permanent Houses - both permanently maintained, serviced, manned and provisioned with Lords, Ladies and staff forming a 'travelling circus' (Daily Telegraph description of those alternating between Strasbourg and Brussels) commuting from London, and wherever, to York on a daily or weekly basis. And meanwhile the House of Lords in Westminster must continue to be maintained.

Whether a good idea or not, it most certainly is full of irony given the noisy fuss made by some over the cost of elements of the EU governance alternating between Strasbourg and Brussels.
A move to oblivion would be preferable.
 
Houses of Parliament split in two with House of Lords relocated to York? And so we would have two permanent Houses - both permanently maintained, serviced, manned and provisioned with Lords, Ladies and staff forming a 'travelling circus' (Daily Telegraph description of those alternating between Strasbourg and Brussels) commuting from London, and wherever, to York on a daily or weekly basis. And meanwhile the House of Lords in Westminster must continue to be maintained.

Whether a good idea or not, it most certainly is full of irony given the noisy fuss made by some over the cost of elements of the EU governance alternating between Strasbourg and Brussels.

I think there is overdue work needed on both of the old buildings and its expensive to operate and running out of space.

Help to bring jobs to York area. Those working in London also commute for some of the longest and expensive journey times so there might be a net reduction.
 
As someone who does a far bit of travelling for work just entered an EU country as a fellow EU citizen for the last time. I know some see this all as an exciting opportunity, I just felt a little sad to be honest.
 
As someone who does a far bit of travelling for work just entered an EU country as a fellow EU citizen for the last time. I know some see this all as an exciting opportunity, I just felt a little sad to be honest.

Did you hug the guys in passport control? Sorry, just being a little flippant. How do you feel when you land in the US(?) or Thailand(?)? I agree its disappointing but I'm not going to beat my chest or tear my clothes over it. Life goes on.
 
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