SwingsitlikeHogan
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I actually think it relevant in part as the Swiss people clearly recognised the value of freedom of movement despite the cost and other impacts.
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I actually think it relevant in part as the Swiss people clearly recognised the value of freedom of movement despite the cost and other impacts.
Old Skier
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They only value it within the EU.
woody69
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It required the annexing of Northern Ireland to the EU and that was unacceptable to the DUP
SwingsitlikeHogan
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eh? Scratches head....
Taz
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exactly :
SocketRocket
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They dont open their borders to the world.
robinthehood
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Just all the other EU countries, if you're in one of those ,bar a few, then it's easy to travel to CH without passport checks.
3offTheTee
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Do you not see that you have just done what so many Leave voters do all the time. Make an aspirational assertion about the future - one largely built on sand and the promises of such as Johnson, Gove and R-M - and when it is rebutted by the facts - as Bri has laid on in this instance - they do not counter him with the facts supporting their assertion - usually because they are sparse at best - but immediately change tack and look for something else to justify their Leave position.
And so it just goes on and on - as Johnson and his mates continue to pump out DomCumm Wormtongue's stuff to feed the cycle
SILH
Are you an actual mind reader?
Reading my thoughts. Stick to facts please
Old Skier
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Good to see SILH and his childish name calling returned to the forum again.
SocketRocket
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What made you decide to post that crock of balderdash 🙄
Foxholer
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Make your mind up!
SocketRocket
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Yes, although surprised to see him posting again after numerous pledges not to, the content remains as acidic and unbalanced as ever. He seems to like to use poetry now to berate the Tory destroyers of all things dear to him, maybe I could offer a line from Kipling's 'If' :
'If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools'.
robinthehood
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Great bantzMake your mind up!
I thought you'd be busy telling me how not all EU countries are in the schengen zone and how not all schengen zone countries are in the EU.
Instead it's just a boring little troll post.
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Foxholer
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Foxholer
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Since when has 'balance' been a pre-requisite for posting on this - or any - forum. Especially one with Brexit as a topic!
There's certainly no evidence of 'balance' in your own, nor several/many other posters posts! But that's fine by me, up to the point where they seem (to me) more like bullying, which seems (to me) to happen far too often!
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SocketRocket
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He has a completely blinkered view of anything Tory or Brexit that lacks the slightest modicum of balance. I have a Brexit biased view but I dont post diatribes that support my viewpoint, if I did no doubt you would be the first on here to point out my imbalanced thinking as obsesive. Responding to SLH in the sarcastic MO he uses himself is not bullying, its retalitory, if it was then I could often throw the challenge in your direction.
Bunkermagnet
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Its good to see a reflection of the stupid behaivour in the HoS on here as well.
And we wonder why nothing gets sorted.
And we wonder why nothing gets sorted.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Name calling? I'll call Cummings whatever I want if that's what you mean - as he is to my mind simply a 'wormtongue' twisting the thoughts and actionsd of our PM. And don't you think that that rather adds balance to the absurd 'Spartans' the ERG style themselves as these days - or to the 'Surrender' Act as Johnson refers to the Benn Act.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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You clearly haven't read any Robert Heinlein then - talking of his words as a crock of balderdash when...
Robert A. Heinlein was the most influential science fiction writer of his era, an influence so large that, as Samuel R. Delany notes, "modern critics attempting to wrestle with that influence find themselves dealing with an object rather like the sky or an ocean." He won the Hugo Award for best novel four times, a record that still stands. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress was the last of these Hugo-winning novels, and it is widely considered his finest work.
And as I posted - I read it and smiled, recognising the resonance today and it's relevance to the Brexit debate.
Interestingly Heinlein also talks in this novel (of 1966) of Fake News - being information that the inhabitants of a Lunar colony (Loonies) transmit to Earth to cover up their revolt against the authorities.
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SwingsitlikeHogan
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If circumstances, facts or my understanding changes - then I have a democratic right to change my mind
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