Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[Doon frae Troon]

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90,000 golf club members voted for Johnson....….how dare he say that
What about the Lodge members, London taxi drivers, Aberdeenshire YF clubs and the blue rinse bridge brigade.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Paula Sherriff MP began working for the Police in a Victim Support role at the age of 18. She was proud to receive a Judge’s commendation for work she undertook supporting victims of sexual abuse. After nearly a decade in the Police Service, Paula joined the NHS, working in a front line role in Community Healthcare provision until being elected MP for Dewsbury constituency.

Would you like to try and explain why you are insulting this Lady and labelling her as a nutcase?

Because he’s all that’s wrong with oh so many things...

 

[Deleted member 1147]

23rd June 2016. You been in a coma?

Re the 2nd para, I don’t condone it but it’s hardly the hate crime you seem to be portraying it as. Bloke on drugs bangs on window and shouts “facist”...

Mind you the definition of Facist is “A fascist is a follower of a political philosophy characterized by authoritarian views and a strong central government — and no tolerance for opposing opinions. Fascist traces to the Italian word fascio, meaning "group, bundle." Under fascist rule, the emphasis is on the group — the nation — with few individual rights” so was he wrong?

Yes

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

If there's a "SiLH is a hypocrite" smiley then let's go with that one. ;-)

I thought the mods have warned against personal attacks of other posters.

I am disappointed that some view my posts as hypocritical - misinformed and mistaken at times yes - but I try to not be a hypocrite and I wonder why I am so accused. I can only think that perhaps some do not like hearing some truths about leading leave campaigners as some remain voters see them.

 

[Foxholer]

Yes but I am expecting most of these MPs to be out of a job after a GE.
If not then we get what we deserve.

While I agree with the sentiment, I'm afraid it doesn't work like that - more's the pity!
And where it might happen, the replacement is likely to act in a very similar way!

 

[ColchesterFC]

I thought the mods have warned against personal attacks of other posters.

I am disappointed that some view my posts as hypocritical - misinformed and mistaken at times yes - but I try to not be a hypocrite and I wonder why I am so accused. I can only think that perhaps some do not like hearing some truths about leading leave campaigners as some remain voters see them.

That wasn't a personal attack on another poster, it was a factually accurate statement. The reason your posts are seen as hypocritical is because they are hypocritical. You may be trying not to be a hypocrite but you're failing. You have been quick to highlight lies told by the Leave campaign while ignoring and refusing to accept that the Remain side also told lies. Perhaps if you were more balanced in your views and your posts then it wouldn't be an issue.

 

[Foxholer]

...Perhaps if you were more balanced in your views and your posts agreed with me then it wouldn't be an issue.

Fixed that for you!

I don't see anything hypocritical about SILH's posts - merely opinion that is different to many (seemingly louder) ones on here! Please provide 2 examples of his 'hypocrisy'!

 

[ColchesterFC]

Fixed that for you!

I don't see anything hypocritical about SILH's posts - merely opinion that is different to many (seemingly louder) ones on here! Please provide 2 examples of his 'hypocrisy'!

Using derogatory terms to describe Leave voters and politicians but complaining when others do the same in reverse.

Repeatedly highlighting lies from Leave while ignoring those from Remain.

And as for you "fixing" my post, I'm on the same side of the argument as SiLH. I wanted and still want to remain but he's a Remain version of Farage. Which coincidentally is another example of his hypocrisy. He shouts long and loud about the extreme Leavers without accepting that he is their mirror on the Remain side.

 

[clubchamp98]

While I agree with the sentiment, I'm afraid it doesn't work like that - more's the pity!
And where it might happen, the replacement is likely to act in a very similar way!

I can see all this putting a lot of people off politics .
Once this is over people won’t bother imo.

We had the biggest turnout for a vote in history and all they have done in over three years is argue what we meant ,
If we could stop MPs pay until they do their job and Brexit that might hurry them up a bit.
Try to think of any other job where you get paid for messing it up.

Bankers ,Thomas Cook bosses getting millions while people lose their jobs it’s scandalous.

 

[SocketRocket]

90,000 golf club members voted for Johnson....….how dare he say that
What about the Lodge members, London taxi drivers, Aberdeenshire YF clubs and the blue rinse bridge brigade.

Didnt realise you had voted for him, well well

 

[Foxholer]

Using derogatory terms to describe Leave voters and politicians but complaining when others do the same in reverse.

Repeatedly highlighting lies from Leave while ignoring those from Remain.

And as for you "fixing" my post, I'm on the same side of the argument as SiLH. I wanted and still want to remain but he's a Remain version of Farage. Which coincidentally is another example of his hypocrisy. He shouts long and loud about the extreme Leavers without accepting that he is their mirror on the Remain side.

You've failed to to post the 2 examples I requested! Instances, nor 'styles' was what I was after.

And while your first point would be hypocrisy, my view is that your second wouldn't - simply 'bias', something he is happy to declare. So 2 examples of the 1st style please!

Oh...And I too voted remain, but unlike at least you, accept the result and want the verdict of the vote to be implemented. Are you for or against 'democracy' - and perhaps whether you are being a hypocrite yourself? And calling BJ 'Bozo' doesn't count either!

 

[ColchesterFC]

You've failed to to post the 2 examples I requested! Instances, nor 'styles' was what I was after.

And while your first point would be hypocrisy, my view is that your second wouldn't - simply 'bias', something he is happy to declare. So 2 examples of the 1st style please!

Oh...And I too voted remain, but unlike at least you, accept the result and want the verdict of the vote to be implemented. Are you for or against 'democracy' - and perhaps whether you are being a hypocrite yourself? And calling BJ 'Bozo' doesn't count either!

There's a big difference between wanting to remain and not accepting the result of the vote. I still firmly believe that the best option is to remain in the EU but accept that my view was not shared by the majority of those that voted. My opinion is that no matter how crazy I think it is to leave that was the result of the question asked and we now have to honour the result, hopefully in the least damaging way possible.

 

[SocketRocket]

There's a big difference between wanting to remain and not accepting the result of the vote. I still firmly believe that the best option is to remain in the EU but accept that my view was not shared by the majority of those that voted. My opinion is that no matter how crazy I think it is to leave that was the result of the question asked and we now have to honour the result, hopefully in the least damaging way possible.

Whats your least damaging Brexit

 

[Blue in Munich]

Fixed that for you!

I don't see anything hypocritical about SILH's posts - merely opinion that is different to many (seemingly louder) ones on here! Please provide 2 examples of his 'hypocrisy'!

Anything hypocritical about his continued promises to leave the thread and not post anymore, and then coming back and posting more? I took that to be what the hypocritical posts comment was referencing

He has continually used derogatory language to describe Leavers and has made unfounded accusations against them as a group. I quoted these in a long post some time ago. Feel free to search for it if you wish.

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Gentlemen of the Forum

Fragger is watching you 👀.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I can see all this putting a lot of people off politics .
Once this is over people won’t bother imo.

We had the biggest turnout for a vote in history and all they have done in over three years is argue what we meant ,
If we could stop MPs pay until they do their job and Brexit that might hurry them up a bit.
Try to think of any other job where you get paid for messing it up.

Bankers ,Thomas Cook bosses getting millions while people lose their jobs it’s scandalous.

Why do Leavers continue with the mantra of 'the biggest vote in history'.
The biggest vote in history was only a 2.5% swing away from being a win for remain. Both were high numbers but the margin was very small.
If it was a resounding victory for leave nobody would have a problem. The reason the result was so marginal was in your leader Nigel Farage's words 'unfinished business'.

 

[Papas1982]

Why do Leavers continue with the mantra of 'the biggest vote in history'.
The biggest vote in history was only a 2.5% swing away from being a win for remain. Both were high numbers but the margin was very small.
If it was a resounding victory for leave nobody would have a problem. The reason the result was so marginal was in your leader Nigel Farage's words 'unfinished business'.

Who won, and by how much has Zero relevance to it being the biggest vote.

The sheer numbers taking part make it the biggest. The rest you have written doesn't change that.

 

[MegaSteve]

Why do Leavers continue with the mantra of 'the biggest vote in history'.
The biggest vote in history was only a 2.5% swing away from being a win for remain. Both were high numbers but the margin was very small.
If it was a resounding victory for leave nobody would have a problem. The reason the result was so marginal was in your leader Nigel Farage's words 'unfinished business'.

Who appointed Farage as leader?
As I remember it was Gisela Stuart..

 

[Foxholer]

There's a big difference between wanting to remain and not accepting the result of the vote. I still firmly believe that the best option is to remain in the EU but accept that my view was not shared by the majority of those that voted. My opinion is that no matter how crazy I think it is to leave that was the result of the question asked and we now have to honour the result, hopefully in the least damaging way possible.

That's fair enough. My post (that you quoted) is still valid though - with that correction/clarification.

 

[Foxholer]

Anything hypocritical about his continued promises to leave the thread and not post anymore, and then coming back and posting more? I took that to be what the hypocritical posts comment was referencing

He has continually used derogatory language to describe Leavers and has made unfounded accusations against them as a group. I quoted these in a long post some time ago. Feel free to search for it if you wish.

As it demands an answer....

Possibly, but not imo (merely 'addiction' as I can attest!) - and it was 'posts', not 'posting' that was at issue. Happy to review your post, but it's not up to me to find/quote it. I merely asked the question!