Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[Taz]

So she's bringing back a deal trying to appease everyone it will end up with support fr on no-one.

 

[Swinglowandslow]

The headline says that if MPs vote to pass her Withdrawal bill( and then if the vote is won, presumably we should be leaving the EU), then, as a reward,( for passing her Bill) they can then vote for another referendum, one result of which would be to NOT leave the EU.
Hey...?...

Is this a wind up? Can someone, who may know what the hell she means, kindly explain how there is any sense or reason in this course of action?

 

[Deleted member 18121]

So she's bringing back a deal trying to appease everyone it will end up with support fr on no-one.

This is now the big test for MPs, are they truly out for themselves or are they true to the process.

 

[TheDiablo]

I neither agree nor disagree with JP5, and I'm definitely no Farage/BNP/Brexit Party fanboy. My question is how was it reported by Ch4? Farage and Brexit is very polarising/marmite. If its been reported fair and square, no problem.

On a wider note, and more as a generalisation when it comes to news reporting, I prefer the news to reported not editorialised. I want to form my own opinion, not have some form of spin on it to make it look good/bad/exaggerated.

Im sure you're well aware, but if that's your preferred route to the news (as it is mine) then you've little option outside of Reuters.

Their mission is to provide the news by having a network of local presence to the various media outlets, who can then spin it any way they choose. Its why you often see 'Reuters reporting:...' on breaking news whilst they work out their spin on the story.

BBC, Ch4, Guardian are examples of those who claim not to put too much editorial spin on them, but thats debatable to say the least.

 

[ColchesterFC]

The headline says that if MPs vote to pass her Withdrawal bill( and then if the vote is won, presumably we should be leaving the EU), then, as a reward,( for passing her Bill) they can then vote for another referendum, one result of which would be to NOT leave the EU.
Hey...?

I would imagine that Doon and other pro-Scottish independence forum members will have been delighted with the announcement today from Theresa May. The headline might as well have been "Theresa May gives green light for Scottish Indy Ref 2" as she can't very well accept the possibility of a 2nd referendum on membership of the EU and reject the possibility of a 2nd referendum on Scottish independence.

 

[Kellfire]

This is now the big test for MPs, are they truly out for themselves or are they true to the process.

No, it’s are they out to do the best for their constituents (aka remain) or go against that notion and go for Brexit knowing it’ll appease the vocal, richer, more violent masses.

 

[chrisd]

No, it’s are they out to do the best for their constituents (aka remain) or go against that notion and go for Brexit knowing it’ll appease the vocal, richer, more violent masses.

Once again Kellfire- comedy gold!

 

[Kellfire]

Once again Kellfire- comedy gold!

All depends on your opinion - are politicians elected to do what they feel is best or to be puppets to please ignorant voters.

 

[chrisd]

If politicians vote for a referendum and promise to enact the result of it, have a general election and promise to obey the majority wish if they are voted in and then vote in the HOC to invoke Article 50 then I would assume that they are either undemocratic to thwart the decision of the people or just liars and need to be sacked at the next opportunity.

 

[IanM]

Yep.. they establishment are worried, so after Farage now big style.

Whereas other entities continue unmolested.

 

[Slime]

No, it’s are they out to do the best for their constituents (aka remain) or go against that notion and go for Brexit knowing it’ll appease the vocal, richer, more violent masses.

Every time you post comments like this it reminds me to put the bins out!
I wonder why.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

Every time you post comments like this it reminds me to put the bins out!
I wonder why.

This is why the ignore function is great on this forum 👍

 

[Kellfire]

This is why the ignore function is great on this forum 👍

Ignoring comments you don’t agree with. Sums up a lot of Brexiteers views.

 

[Dando]

Ignoring comments you don’t agree with. Sums up a lot of Brexiteers views.

I suppose remainers stamping their feet and trying to get the vote to leave overturned is ok

 

[chrisd]

This is why the ignore function is great on this forum 👍

I'd never put him on ignore! I think its important to read the views of people whose sole aim in life seems to be to wind everyone else up but usually just prove how ignorant they themselves are

 

[robinthehood]

I suppose remainers stamping their feet and trying to get the vote to leave overturned is ok

Tbf it's working 😉

 

[Hobbit]

No, it’s are they out to do the best for their constituents (aka remain) or go against that notion and go for Brexit knowing it’ll appease the vocal, richer, more violent masses.

Pretty sure it was a Remainer that committed assault with a deadly milkshake...

 

[Kellfire]

I suppose remainers stamping their feet and trying to get the vote to leave overturned is ok

Let's look at it from a remainers point of view - we're trying to do the best for the general public including the vast majority of brexiteers. We believe the vote to leave will materially harm society on the whole. Why wouldn't we do everything to do the best for everyone?

 

[Kellfire]

Pretty sure it was a Remainer that committed assault with a deadly milkshake...

I don't agree with throwing milkshakes at Farage or Robinson; it's a waste of good milkshake!

 

[Hobbit]

Let's look at it from a remainers point of view - we're trying to do the best for the general public including the vast majority of brexiteers. We believe the vote to leave will materially harm society on the whole. Why wouldn't we do everything to do the best for everyone?

And Brexiteers believe they are doing the best for the UK, including Remainers. All depends on how someone wants to spin it.