Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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Crazyface said:
I can't beleive this is still being argued about. It's simple we voted out, it matter not the size of the vote. We should have left with immediate effect on the leave date and a brand new trade deal struck with the EU which had been negotiated with no payments made to the EU (that were due) until such a deal had been made. And this deal would be a trade deal ONLY. no further payments to the EU bonkers ideas.
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So you are 'still arguing about' as well!

Oh! And there's the minor difficulty of actually legitimising that decision! From memory, that option, amended to cover 'No Deal Anytime' was rejected by Parliament, though it is 'indicative only' as No Deal is still the default position under Article 50.
 
IanM said:
Been off here for a while, but amused to see its still rumbling on... Doon still thinks that the EU giving us back a proportion of OUR OWN MONEY is EU Investment! :)

Oh well.. back to work! :)
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It is certainly a much fairer investment for the areas of the UK that have historically been 'underinvested ' by Westminster [ ie anywhere outwith London and the SE of England]
 
Doon frae Troon said:
It is certainly a much fairer investment for the areas of the UK that have historically been 'underinvested ' by Westminster [ ie anywhere outwith London and the SE of England]
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Doon!
1. Where do you think the EU gets the money for these 'investments'?
2. Do you realise that the EU generally requires Local (Netional) Government to both approve the 'project' and to make an equal investment?
 
pauldj42 said:
Probably because we were promised a deal before we left, not Leave then deal.
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We were never promised a deal, although many predicted that the EU would want a deal. Why do you say we were promised a deal? Expectations were set but it was always naive to expect them to be met.

It was interesting to see the behind the scenes documentary of the EU negotiating team. They desperately don't want No Deal but obviously have planned for a worst case scenario.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
I shall hazard a guess. :ROFLMAO:
1] The EU
2]Yes.
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Wrong! Guess again!

Actually, don't bother!

You've been told several times already but it doesn't seem to have sunk in.
The EU gets the money for those 'investments' from net contributors, of which (2015 figures) UK is the 3rd largest! It's actually the 6th largest recipient of EU funding (4th largest gross contributor), so 'not getting its fair share'! Surely even with YOUR anti-English bias, you should be able to see that much more investment/funding of those areas and more could be made using those funds internally. Traditional Scottish 'frugality' would surely demand that happen too!
 
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I see that Farage is the latest MP to be attacked with milkshake. Is this really the state of modern politics, where people have been so radicalised that an MEP isn't safe to campaign without fear of being attacked.

It's pathetic that ANY MP is attacked by the public.
 
Foxholer said:
Wrong! Guess again!

Actually, don't bother!

You've been told several times already but it doesn't seem to have sunk in.
The EU gets the money for those 'investments' from net contributors, of which (2015 figures) UK is the 3rd largest! It's actually the 6th largest recipient of EU funding (4th largest gross contributor), so 'not getting its fair share'! Surely even with YOUR anti-English bias, you should be able to see that much more investment/funding of those areas and more could be made using those funds internally. Traditional Scottish 'frugality' would surely demand that happen too!
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That is why you are totally wrong.
The EU's money is the EU's money, wherever it comes from.

I did have a wee laugh at your comment about sharing and pooling within the UK.
Remember the Vow by Cameron, Milliband and Cleggy.........Aye that worked well eh.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
It is certainly a much fairer investment for the areas of the UK that have historically been 'underinvested ' by Westminster [ ie anywhere outwith London and the SE of England]
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Also not true, in fact miles out! ... get googling the old RDA Reports...of course, these had to be shut so the cash could be "branded EU!" It's all in Hansard

And you better not check the stats on where the tax revenue comes from either!

AND - if you say it doesnt matter where the money comes from, it's the EUs. That demonstrates plenty.

...Top Trolling though, as ever... love the use of "outwith" too!
 
Hobbit said:
We were never promised a deal, although many predicted that the EU would want a deal. Why do you say we were promised a deal? Expectations were set but it was always naive to expect them to be met.

It was interesting to see the behind the scenes documentary of the EU negotiating team. They desperately don't want No Deal but obviously have planned for a worst case scenario.
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I would disagree Bri, there was very little or no mention at all from the Leave campaign of leaving with no deal, their Leaflet’s certainly did mention leaving with a deal.

I was sort of on the fence when we voted and saying we would Leave with a deal swayed me, I really wasn’t in favour of leaving with no deal and tbh, may of took the easier option (imo) of voting to remain had the No Deal ticket been the only other option.
 
IanM said:
Any Remainers like Doon here want me to pay your mortgages and buy your food/kids Xmas Presents etc.....??





Send me your salary.... I'll send you 75% of it back.... and HEY PRESTO I am paying for all your stuff! Smashing deal eh? I'll even tell you where you can spend it! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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😂😂

You forgot to add "oh, and you will also need to find some co-financing too, either your own money or other private funds"!!! 😉😂
 
pauldj42 said:
I would disagree Bri, there was very little or no mention at all from the Leave campaign of leaving with no deal, their Leaflet’s certainly did mention leaving with a deal.

I was sort of on the fence when we voted and saying we would Leave with a deal swayed me, I really wasn’t in favour of leaving with no deal and tbh, may of took the easier option (imo) of voting to remain had the No Deal ticket been the only other option.
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How could the Leave camp promise something it wasn't their's to promise? Who is being naive? But to be fair, there is a deal on the table. Therefore why are you complaining about the deal?

Equally, Remain said there would be no single market or customs union. To be honest, I expected it would be Leave then negotiate.

Round and round in circles. It isn't going to happen anyway.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
That is why you are totally wrong.
The EU's money is the EU's money, wherever it comes from.
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I've never suggested it wasn't EU's money; just queried/explained how it gets it!
Though it won't be getting it from the UK for much longer!

Doon frae Troon said:
I did have a wee laugh at your comment about sharing and pooling within the UK.
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Eh? What? I made no such comment! You are imagining (dreaming?) or just plain inventing!
 
IanM said:
Any Remainers like Doon here want me to pay your mortgages and buy your food/kids Xmas Presents etc.....??





Send me your salary.... I'll send you 75% of it back.... and HEY PRESTO I am paying for all your stuff! Smashing deal eh? I'll even tell you where you can spend it! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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Not sure if you are talking about the UK in the EU or Scotland in the UK there :unsure:
 
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