Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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Another who mistakenly believes EU grants come from a magic box in Brussels. The UK is a net beneficiary to the EU, we only get some of our money back.

Agree.. why send it to Brussels who then dish it back to smaller communities in Wales and North. Instead we should focus on building vanity London centric things like the HD2 or the 3rd runway.. anything outside the M25 is not worth it..
 
I have no time for Nigel Farage and I really do not care about any policies the Brexit Party may or may not have. I will vote for them as will millions of others as it is simply a protest vote. The European elections mean absolutely nothing so it is a chance to register disgust at the democratic decision of the country to leave the EU not being carried out.
 
There's a very good report in The Commons Library Briefing Papers on EU funding allocation if anyone wants to argue facts instead of rhetoric, e.g. "oh the Tories would never fund north of Watford Gap." And Labour did what for the north during the last long stint in power(and whilst in the EU)?

Also, an interesting read, and education, in recent weeks has been how big businesses in the EU offset the carbon emission payments, and where and how they get their carbon emission credits. Some of you will have seen a piece in the news this week about Tata Steel needing a £70m loan/bailout from the UK govt to pay for carbon emissions. The story itself has been kicking around for a few months now, before hitting prime time news on the BBC.

Short version; the period the payment is due for is 2018. Normally, the carbon credits issued by the EU would cover ALL of that bill. The EU has decided not to issue carbon credits to ANY UK businesses because the UK is leaving the EU. They talk about treating the UK with respect, and of not harming UK citizens because of Brexit, especially as nearly half voted for the EU...

Unless something has happened that we've missed, the UK was a full member of the EU in 2018, and is still a full member of the EU. Fair? Just? Bullying? Milking the cash cow whilst they still can?
 
I have no time for Nigel Farage and I really do not care about any policies the Brexit Party may or may not have. I will vote for them as will millions of others as it is simply a protest vote. The European elections mean absolutely nothing so it is a chance to register disgust at the democratic decision of the country to leave the EU not being carried out.
It hasn't happened because it's a bad idea. Pretty straight forward
 
It hasn't happened because it's a bad idea. Pretty straight forward
No its not!
democracy is always the right way, it may be unpopular with some but enacting the will of the majority in a vote is always the right way and the very foundation on which our country has been established. You may not like this system when your view loses but ignore it and we have nothing but chaos
 
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No its not!
democracy is always the right way, it may be unpopular with some but enacting the will of the majority in a vote is always the right way and the very foundation on which our country has been established. You may not like this system when your view loses but ignore it and we have nothing but chaos

Boris will be I charge soon, ardent leave supporter. You think he'll make a difference?
 
Hells teeth, we have had the world laughing at our Brexit exploits.
One would think they will be utterly helpless if we actually voted for that idiot to be our PM.
The Benny Hill Show has morphed into the new Westminster.

It's likely that we won't even be given that option. If he wins the Tory leadership contest then he'll become PM without any of us voting for him.

P.S. I think it's a bit unfair to call him an idiot. I'm sure he's a very intelligent man. A buffoon and a clown maybe, but still an intelligent buffoon and clown.
 
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