Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

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ColchesterFC said:
Are you suggesting that there were predictions that unemployment would rise by over 500k in the two years following a vote to leave the EU. I can't believe that the Remain campaign would have been desperate enough to predict such an outrageous thing.......

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36355564

But of course as SiLH would be quick to point out. These weren't "lies" they were predictions or forecasts. Only the Leave campaign told "lies".
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And the new jobs (around half a million) were in full time or self employed positions mainly.
 
Hobbit said:
Shocking isn't it. MD's and CEO's spending money on a hunch rather than keeping a rainy day fund. All those companies spending a fortune on recruitment, infrastructure to support the new employees and risking their credit ratings. Who'd have thought that businesses would be so reckless with shareholders money, and risk boardroom censure at their respective AGM's. Parliament may well be run by idiots but its looks like businesses are equally stupid. How very dare they be so successful, and as a consequence rubbishing the claims of all those that said the sky would fall in.
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It just cant be business creating the jobs, that's the job of the EU 🤔
 
Old Skier said:
I think you'll find that the shear mention of the result was suggested to be enough to send the UK into free fall by the economic wizards.
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It was a prediction , I’m sure there have been plenty of predictions on both sides that will have been proved to be incorrect but surely it should only be facts to look at

We are still in the EU and employment has risen

Is there a link between to two ? Who knows ? Is there a link between Brexit ? Who knows - either way the main thing is we have more people in work and it should be a good thing not something to use to score points as per usual
 
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ColchesterFC said:
Are you suggesting that there were predictions that unemployment would rise by over 500k in the two years following a vote to leave the EU. I can't believe that the Remain campaign would have been desperate enough to predict such an outrageous thing.......

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36355564

But of course as SiLH would be quick to point out. These weren't "lies" they were predictions or forecasts. Only the Leave campaign told "lies".
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It's funny, when I mention those predictions to remainers are work they claim that no such forecast was ever made.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
It was a prediction , I’m sure there have been plenty of predictions on both sides that will have been proved to be incorrect but surely it should only be facts to look at

We are still in the EU and unemployment has risen

Is there a link between to two ? Who knows ? Is there a link between Brexit ? Who knows - either way the main thing is we have more people in work and it should be a good thing not something to use to score points as per usual
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Employment has risen by half a million in the last year. Great news, dont you agree.

If you believe these jobs are created due to us being in the EU then why isn't it a trend throughout the EU.
 
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Liverpoolphil said:
It was a prediction , I’m sure there have been plenty of predictions on both sides that will have been proved to be incorrect but surely it should only be facts to look at

We are still in the EU and unemployment has risen

Is there a link between to two ? Who knows ? Is there a link between Brexit ? Who knows - either way the main thing is we have more people in work and it should be a good thing not something to use to score points as per usual
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You're starting to sound like SiLH there.

If we are to continue your logic then why do we hear so much about all the lies that were told by the Leave campaign? We're still in the EU at the minute so anything that the Leave campaign said/predicted/forecast cannot be thrown back at them until we actually leave. We wouldn't want to be accused of double standards or hypocrisy would we?
 
ColchesterFC said:
You're starting to sound like SiLH there.

If we are to continue your logic then why do we hear so much about all the lies that were told by the Leave campaign? We're still in the EU at the minute so anything that the Leave campaign said/predicted/forecast cannot be thrown back at them until we actually leave. We wouldn't want to be accused of double standards or hypocrisy would we?
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As I said in my post

Predictions were made by both sides which will no doubt be seen to be untrue

I do believe only one campaign was found to have broken some rules ? I have no idea what has been thrown back into anyone’s face - tried to look at the thread but it seems to have turned into tit for tat insults and point scoring
 
Liverpoolphil said:
As I said in my post

Predictions were made by both sides which will no doubt be seen to be untrue

I do believe only one campaign was found to have broken some rules ? I have no idea what has been thrown back into anyone’s face - tried to look at the thread but it seems to have turned into tit for tat insults and point scoring
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Its a pity the govt couldn't be prosecuted for spending £9 million on a leaflet before campaigning officially started. Leave campaign did do a number of things wrong, and illegal, but I see no difference in terms of morality for the £9 million spent on the leaflet.
 
SocketRocket said:
The answer is Yes then.

Read your second paragraph again.
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Is there a link between to two ? Who knows ? Is there a link between Brexit ? Who knows - either way the main thing is we have more people in work and it should be a good thing not something to use to score points as per usual

I thought it was simple to understand

Anyway it’s clear what the thread has turned into with you at the forefront so I’ll do as most have and leave you and your pack to it
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Is there a link between to two ? Who knows ? Is there a link between Brexit ? Who knows - either way the main thing is we have more people in work and it should be a good thing not something to use to score points as per usual

I thought it was simple to understand
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You said unemployment had risen. Take a look at your own post if you want to see point scoring 🙄
 
The link below is to a trade paper, not a piece of propaganda. Its full of numbers and facts about the current state of manufacturing in various sectors in the UK. Its an interesting read.

One comment in it - "the UK is currently 9th in the world in manufacturing, and will rise to 5th by 2021." It certainly brings into question the oft heard comment that the UK's manufacturing industry has been decimated through the 70's and 80's. And there's a lot in it that raises a few questions about what the doom mongers continue to say.

Rather than take on board too much from politicians and the main stream media, it sometimes helps to do a little research.

uk-manufacturing-statistics
 
Caught a bit of the Lib Dems political broadcast last night , Cable was on about overturning the "wafer thin " majority of the referendum , i bet if he got in on such a majority he would not be asking for that one to be overturned.
It just winds me up , a majority was gained ,bloody act on it if not get off the pot and let someone who is willing to have a go get on with it .Hypocrites the lot of them they would all be happy enough if they were elected with such a majority !!!
 
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