Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[robinthehood]

Once taken into countries like Germany and Sweden there is an EU liberty called freedom of movement, I guess you may have heard about it.

Yes for eu citizens.
sadly farage played on people's fears that the caravan in the poster could head here.
Unsurprising that so many leavers distanced them selves from this particularly ugly bit of propaganda.

 

[Foxholer]

Dream on. Most of the immigrants were from Sud Saharan countries who were economic migrants and not from war zones.
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Do you have proof of that?

Btw. I'm pretty sure there's 'war zones' in Sud (Sub?!) Sahara countries too (Sudan for example) - though your wording is certainly (deliberately?) ambiguous.

 

[SocketRocket]

Do you have proof of that?

Btw. I'm pretty sure there's 'war zones' in Sud (Sub?!) Sahara countries too (Sudan for example) - though your wording is certainly (deliberately?) ambiguous.

I have no intention of discussing anything with you as you are an oddball stalker. I keep telling you that in the tirade of PMs you are sending me.

 

[Foxholer]

I have no intention of discussing anything with you as you are an oddball stalker. I keep telling you that in the tirade of PMs you are sending me.

To (totally) quote every PM response....



Btw. Seems to me that's also an admission that your assertion re Economic Migrant vs War Zone Refugees was simply twaddle/balderdash!

 

[drdel]

Yes for eu citizens.
sadly farage played on people's fears that the caravan in the poster could head here.
Unsurprising that so many leavers distanced them selves from this particularly ugly bit of propaganda.

I'd suggest if you went to parts of the UK and France they'd believe the 'caravan' stopped in their neck of the woods !!

 

[robinthehood]

I'd suggest if you went to parts of the UK and France they'd believe the 'caravan' stopped in their neck of the woods !!

I don't need to look any further than this thread for that....

 

[Foxholer]

Yes for eu citizens.
sadly farage played on people's fears that the caravan in the poster could head here.
Unsurprising that so many leavers distanced them selves from this particularly ugly bit of propaganda.

I'm not 100% certain, but I believe 'Worker' is the relevant phrase! Meaning establishment of 'worker' status in EU country-1 gives that worker te same status in all EU countries.

If that's the case, then Socket's fears are actually reasonable!

I'd be happy to be properly appraised either way!

 

[SocketRocket]

To (totally) quote every PM response....



Btw. Seems to me that's also an admission that your assertion re Economic Migrant vs War Zone Refugees was simply twaddle/balderdash!

Keep trying, you know how it ends.

 

[Foxholer]

Keep trying, you know how it ends.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

According to The Metro newspaper he's been charged with harassment for what happened with Sourbry - "following her, filming her and calling her a traitor and a Nazi". I can't believe that "following her" and "filming her" can be part of any serious charge against him, otherwise the courts would be full of journalists and photographers every day of the week for doing their jobs.

He's also facing other charges related to incidents with police officers but unrelated to what happened with Sourbry. There's no doubting in my mind that he's a scumbag (and probably a racist one at that) but until he's been convicted of those offences then he's not guilty. But those charges are separate from what he's been charged with in relation to Sourbry which essentially boils down to calling her a Nazi - unless following and filming someone is now also a criminal offence.

I'm no fan of Soubry but what he did was harassment. He hounded her, got in her face and barked at her. It was horrible, she is entitled to have her own personal space.

I don't know precisely what he was done for but being a git should be enough.

The same applies to any person in a similar situation.

 

[robinthehood]

I'm not 100% certain, but I believe 'Worker' is the relevant phrase! Meaning establishment of 'worker' status in EU country-1 gives that worker te same status in all EU countries.

If that's the case, then Socket's fears are actually reasonable!

I'd be happy to be properly appraised either way!

They're not that either. So still bs

 

[Foxholer]

They're not that either. So still bs

Please expand/explain....aka... What (tf!) do you mean?

Please note/apply my sig!

 

[Beezerk]

Not sure if it's been mentioned but I hear unemployment is at an all time low.
So much for Britain going bust if we voted to leave.

 

[Old Skier]

Not sure if it's been mentioned but I hear unemployment is at an all time low.
So much for Britain going bust if we voted to leave.

Listening on the radio this evening and it was actually blamed on Brexit.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Not sure if it's been mentioned but I hear unemployment is at an all time low.
So much for Britain going bust if we voted to leave.

Are we not still in the EU ?

Isn’t most of the issues people worrying about when we actually leave

So you can say we have unemployment at an all time low whilst in the EU - good news 👍

 

[Beezerk]

Listening on the radio this evening and it was actually blamed on Brexit.

Yeah I heard something like that this morning, something to do with companies employing cheap labour rather than invest in expensive new machinery due to uncertainty over Brexit.
The company I work for make cnc machining centres which aren't cheap, we are absolutely snowed under with work.

 

[Old Skier]

Are we not still in the EU ?

Isn’t most of the issues people worrying about when we actually leave

So you can say we have unemployment at an all time low whilst in the EU - good news 👍

I think you'll find that the shear mention of the result was suggested to be enough to send the UK into free fall by the economic wizards.

 

[Deleted member 18121]

Are we not still in the EU ?

Isn’t most of the issues people worrying about when we actually leave

So you can say we have unemployment at an all time low whilst in the EU - good news 👍

I think that's the exact issue Phil.... If something good happens in the UK at the moment the argument is put that it's because we're dtill in the EU. But on the flip side if anything bad happens it's because if brexit..... It can't be both.

 

[ColchesterFC]

I think you'll find that the shear mention of the result was suggested to be enough to send the UK into free fall by the economic wizards.

Are you suggesting that there were predictions that unemployment would rise by over 500k in the two years following a vote to leave the EU. I can't believe that the Remain campaign would have been desperate enough to predict such an outrageous thing.......

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36355564

But of course as SiLH would be quick to point out. These weren't "lies" they were predictions or forecasts. Only the Leave campaign told "lies".

 

[Hobbit]

Yeah I heard something like that this morning, something to do with companies employing cheap labour rather than invest in expensive new machinery due to uncertainty over Brexit.
The company I work for make cnc machining centres which aren't cheap, we are absolutely snowed under with work.

Shocking isn't it. MD's and CEO's spending money on a hunch rather than keeping a rainy day fund. All those companies spending a fortune on recruitment, infrastructure to support the new employees and risking their credit ratings. Who'd have thought that businesses would be so reckless with shareholders money, and risk boardroom censure at their respective AGM's. Parliament may well be run by idiots but its looks like businesses are equally stupid. How very dare they be so successful, and as a consequence rubbishing the claims of all those that said the sky would fall in.