Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

[Deleted member 16999]

So it’s ok for her to lie. She’s a solicitor who should know better.

Were did I say that?
She’s rightly done time and now she’s on a tag and doing her job!

 

[robinthehood]

So it’s ok for her to lie. She’s a solicitor who should know better.

What about convicted and waiting sentence Chris Davies MP con

 

[Dando]

Is he under curfew?

 

[robinthehood]

Is he under curfew?

I don't know but the curfew is irrelevant.

 

[Tashyboy]

She lied about speeding ffs! She wasn’t out at night stealing or mugging old people.
Quite a few Coppers around Westminister who could probably vouch for whereabouts!

Re Brexit, what will be will be. But she is a criminal, a criminal that should not be allowed in the HOP period. The day she decided to break the law, then lie about it. She should be kicked out of office. If not where do we draw the line that it is acceptable. We are talking about a solicitor stroke MP. Yet it is still ok. No I don't think it is acceptable.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Is he under curfew?

People can apply for the curfew to be extended or reviewed in special circumstances, or in this case do you think Brexit is not important?

 

[robinthehood]

Re Brexit, what will be will be. But she is a criminal, a criminal that should not be allowed in the HOP period. The day she decided to break the law, then lie about it. She should be kicked out of office. If not where do we draw the line that it is acceptable. We are talking about a solicitor stroke MP. Yet it is still ok. No I don't think it is acceptable.

In that case rest easy as convicted fraudster Chris Davies voted against thus cancelling hers out. So in this case 2 wrongs make a right

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Re Brexit, what will be will be. But she is a criminal, a criminal that should not be allowed in the HOP period. The day she decided to break the law, then lie about it. She should be kicked out of office. If not where do we draw the line that it is acceptable. We are talking about a solicitor stroke MP. Yet it is still ok. No I don't think it is acceptable.

Why shouldn’t she be allowed to carry on in a job after serving a punishment ? Are we not in a society where people can rehabilitate ? There is no reason why she can’t continue in her role until she is voted out.

She has no doubt voted in other areas since but because the vote about a no deal Brexit was one vote the knives start to come out for her - where was the teddy throwing when she voted in the previous weeks

No doubt this is all because of some viral fake news being spread around social media and people leap on it

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Re Brexit, what will be will be. But she is a criminal, a criminal that should not be allowed in the HOP period. The day she decided to break the law, then lie about it. She should be kicked out of office. If not where do we draw the line that it is acceptable. We are talking about a solicitor stroke MP. Yet it is still ok. No I don't think it is acceptable.

If an MP gets a 12 month or more sentence they are immediately deselected.
The Attorney General has seen fit to allow her to continue, her background is irrelevant, she is covered by Parliament Rules.
Seriously, were were these quedtions when she went down?

 

[Tashyboy]

Perhaps check for other convicted mps before climbing aboard that high horse

High horse, since when has stating facts come under high horse. Heres a thought if ANY MPs are convicted what about them being removed from office period. Maybe that may set an a Example of them thinking they are free to break the law without consequences

 

[Tashyboy]

In that case rest easy as convicted fraudster Chris Davies voted against thus cancelling hers out. So in this case 2 wrongs make a right

Read post 8969 👍

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Where does it say that 350m will go to the nhs?

Let’s be honest here - everyone is clear about what the message is saying and what the impact of the massive headline was supposed to me - it’s a clear subliminal message that is “suggesting” that the country could spend money that normally goes to the EU could be spent on the NHS instead - any marketing exec ( which my wife is ) will tell you it’s brilliant marketing and would have had the desired affected. Something doesn’t have to give a direct message for it to tell the story

 

[Deleted member 16999]

High horse, since when has stating facts come under high horse. Heres a thought if ANY MPs are convicted what about them being removed from office period. Maybe that may set an a Example of them thinking they are free to break the law without consequences

What Law? Dropping litter? Doing 35 in a 30, come on Tash, people are clutching at straws, what about the 14 tory MP’s who voted the same way as her?

 

[Tashyboy]

If an MP gets a 12 month or more sentence they are immediately deselected.
The Attorney General has seen fit to allow her to continue, her background is irrelevant, she is covered by Parliament Rules.
Seriously, were were these quedtions when she went down?

How can you ask an unknown question. When was she due for release, no one knew. Would she be released on good behaviour, who knew. Is she the first to wear tag in the HOP. I hope she is the last.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

High horse, since when has stating facts come under high horse. Heres a thought if ANY MPs are convicted what about them being removed from office period. Maybe that may set an a Example of them thinking they are free to break the law without consequences

She went to jail - she paid the price and had her consequences?! Should people be punished twice for a single crime ?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

How can you ask an unknown question. When was she due for release, no one knew. Would she be released on good behaviour, who knew. Is she the first to wear tag in the HOP. I hope she is the last.

Eh! She was released in March! It was all over the news and the papers as she virtually went straight to HoC to vote in the earlier Brexit votes, she’s been out a month!

 

[Blue in Munich]

She went to jail - she paid the price and had her consequences?! Should people be punished twice for a single crime ?

Eh! She was released in March! It was all over the news and the papers as she virtually went straight to HoC to vote in the earlier Brexit votes, she’s been out a month!

So released early on a tag then? Not completed her sentence (3 months on the 29th of January) and so not complying with the conditions of her tag if there is a curfew & she was outside it.

So as she's apparently not actually completed the punishment she was given can we please cut out the should she be punished twice moans please.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So released early on a tag then? Not completed her sentence (3 months on the 29th of January) and so not complying with the conditions of her tag if there is a curfew & she was outside it.

So as she's apparently not actually completed the punishment she was given can we please cut out the should she be punished twice moans please.

The moans are only coming because she voted on the side of this bill - if she voted against it Imo you wouldn’t have heard a peep

She was rightly found guilty of crime , given a sentence of which as per most sentence been released early on a tab , why should she not now be allowed to carry on her life and represent her constituents who voted her in

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Not according to the Government side.

They claim that the talks have been constructive and both sides are considering different ways forward.

Somewhere between the two lies the truth I expect. Just hope the talks aren't ruined by party posturing from either side.

I was going off Keir Starmer comments. I've not heard what the govt said but Starmer is clearly half of the talks. I totally agree with your comments, they need to be bigger.

Apologies for not reading the last dozen pages but bear with me. Now Apparently the prisoner who is out on bail and voted wearing a tag, which in essence won the last vote by one, Has broken her curfew. In essence she should not of been there and should not of been able to vote. I have read she is going back to the high court for breaking her parole. How's that right. Or is it fake news.

Irrespective of what she has done her constituents are entitled to be represented. They should not be punished for her disgrace.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

So released early on a tag then? Not completed her sentence (3 months on the 29th of January) and so not complying with the conditions of her tag if there is a curfew & she was outside it.

So as she's apparently not actually completed the punishment she was given can we please cut out the should she be punished twice moans please.

I believe from what I read she got permission to extend the time curfew if Parliamentry business overran, she didn’t “wing it” or get given special treatment.
My point is that we didn’t get this fuss in Match when she first voted on Brexit.
Not sure what you mean by the punish twice moans mate, I’ve not said that.