• Thank you all very much for sharing your time with us in 2025. We hope you all have a safe and happy 2026!

Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!

Status
Not open for further replies.
I honestly don’t recall any of that, it was in or out from what I remember, take control of our borders, laws was the big selling point. Then everyone has become trade experts over the last 12 months, the waters have become so muddied no one knows where they are.
FC99D5F4-B7AB-455F-8B0B-18AE25724AE8.jpeg
 
  • Like
Reactions: jp5
Another one that hasn't followed this very closely.

We were told we would get a good deal, and NO DEAL WAS BETTER THAN A BAD DEAL.
Think we have actually found out that no deal and a bad deal are very similar but work on different levels .. one can cause chaos the other locks you up with no say.

What has been the major issue is the definition of a good deal. Bearing mind that a good deal for us would be a bad deal for the EU, so compromises all the way ... all a bit bloody obvious really
 
OMG what a bluddy mess. TM is asking JC in for a chat to sort it out.You couldn't script it. THAT JUST WOULDN'T HAPPEN. Yet it is. As I have said,those in power are not connected to the "man in the street" who is screaming "NO DEAL WE DON'T CARE!" I'm done with this now. I e-mailed TM direct last night to say what I wanted to say direct to her so have no desire to follow it anymore. She's lied to us and cannot be trusted now. She's now dancing with the devil and deserves everything she's now gonna get. I hope she ends up in that special place in hell that the EU bloke has got reserved for her.

You just worked out that as a leaver you've been lied to??? Better late than never I suppose.
 
Oliver Letwin on @BBCr4today shows he does not have the first understanding that a customs union with the EU would not be frictionless, and that such would give EU complete control of our trading conditions. Not fit to be an MP, let alone one destroying our constitution.
 
I honestly don’t recall any of that, it was in or out from what I remember, take control of our borders, laws was the big selling point. Then everyone has become trade experts over the last 12 months, the waters have become so muddied no one knows where they are.
because so many leave campaigners sold so many lies.
 
A compromise is a total cop-out.
It's not what the people voted for, but that seems to be totally irrelevant these days.

The trouble is what (some) people thought they were voting for and what is practically achievable with parliamentary arithmetic seem to be two different things.
 
A compromise is a total cop-out.
It's not what the people voted for, but that seems to be totally irrelevant these days.

Half the country voted out, half voted in. I'd say a compromise is what was on the cards all along. Just so happens the compromise is worse than our current arrangement, but there we are.
 
The trouble is what (some) people thought they were voting for and what is practically achievable with parliamentary arithmetic seem to be two different things.

Part of the issue around "what people voted for" is that some voted remain because they didn't want their holidays to spain to be compromised.

As many ignorant people voted leave as voted remain. IMO.
 
I reckon with the amount of man/woman hours put into this thread, we could turn the UK into the powerhouse country of the world if we redirect them.:LOL:
 
Part of the issue around "what people voted for" is that some voted remain because they didn't want their holidays to spain to be compromised.

As many ignorant people voted leave as voted remain. IMO.
Absolutely agree, but I don’t think it’s any different to any other vote we hold.
 
Went straight into the bin mate, I hate propaganda like that.

As daft as it seems, I had made my mind up before any leaflet dropped on the mat. Manifestos are good lies in a fancy Font with the biggest lies in a bold Italic capital letters font.
But I saw a Tory Manifesto yesterday on there pledge re Europe. God all flippin mighty. Today is a million miles away from what there manifesto said.
 
Half the country voted out, half voted in. I'd say a compromise is what was on the cards all along. Just so happens the compromise is worse than our current arrangement, but there we are.

If that comment was true then I would agree, but it wasn't half and half was it. However a compromise should be sought. If people are not prepared to learn another dance. Then Brexit the dance floor.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top