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Brexit - or Article 50: the Phoenix!
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Trust you to come on here and state facts!
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You could have started a lot of the process and had a plan before triggering article 50
Set up a cross party team of negotiators
Identify who we want to do deals with
Figure out which EU laws need to convert to uk law before the exit
Once those sort of things are done then trigger a50 and have 2 years to actually make a go of it
Rather than trigger it, make a lot of noise for 18 months, panic and try and hash it out in the last 6 months
Doon frae Troon
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The PM stated last night that the UK had voted for pain.
Is that correct leavers, did you cast your vote knowing that you were voting to damage the UK.
Is that correct leavers, did you cast your vote knowing that you were voting to damage the UK.
Hacker Khan
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I see the German car manufacturers have finally come to our rescue and the EU have caved in, reopened the withdrawal agreement and have accepted all our demands on the backstop. Hurrah.
What's that, that isn't actually true? All they've actually done is given us a couple more weeks to think if we really do want to shoot ourselves in the foot and leave with no deal? Damn you BMW.
What's that, that isn't actually true? All they've actually done is given us a couple more weeks to think if we really do want to shoot ourselves in the foot and leave with no deal? Damn you BMW.
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jp5
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I'm sure the German car makers will come to our rescue any moment now...
Reckon last night is a sight we'll have to get used to - others making decisions on our behalf.
Reckon last night is a sight we'll have to get used to - others making decisions on our behalf.
Mudball
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There are people who think we will thrive outside the EU - and we will do so in the long run. But what about the short - medium term? Unfortunately Brexit will hit people up and down the country (The PM admits we voted for pain).. unfortunately it will hit those who are already hurting even more. When the economy gets it hit, it does not matter which way you voted. When Honda, bmw, dyson, banks, medium biz move out/shut down people in the supply chain will be hit irrespective of their votes. The safest are those who have probably retired, paid off mortgages - though they might struggle to get onto NHS Ops or in home care as the workforce available is lower.
Anyways I m sure folks will come around and drill holes in the above theory and also point to recent economic data which shows everything is rosy. Some here may have never seen a Jobcenter or a food bank (and long may it stay that way). Setting aside our political and EU views.. have a read of this interesting one >>
https://apple.news/AvC23f8FGSVW6YDWmQoaU3g
Anyways I m sure folks will come around and drill holes in the above theory and also point to recent economic data which shows everything is rosy. Some here may have never seen a Jobcenter or a food bank (and long may it stay that way). Setting aside our political and EU views.. have a read of this interesting one >>
https://apple.news/AvC23f8FGSVW6YDWmQoaU3g
Beezerk
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^^^
I don't think anyone can drill holes into your theory as no one knows how it will pan out.
To stick your colours on one particular outcome at the minute is a tad foolish imo.
I don't think anyone can drill holes into your theory as no one knows how it will pan out.
To stick your colours on one particular outcome at the minute is a tad foolish imo.
Foxholer
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No dodge at all! The question asked was (mayb not the precise words, but pretty close to 'Do you want to Leave the EU or Do You want to stay in te EU?'
So my reply is the only thing that determined from th majority that voted Leave. There were no ... and your reasons were.... boxes to tick!
Mudball
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Fair point... So would it be logical if we should now ask the Leavers How they want to leave aka.. Deal, No Deal, Swiss, Italian... etc? maybe the second ref should only be 'How do we leave?' and not give the public the chance to change their mind.
Foxholer
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No!
SocketRocket
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What has that link got to do with Brexit. Its about household debt . Trawling the net for articles like that to support your opinion is not being reasonable.
Mudball
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State of the nation while the Brexit circus is on.. And then Brexit happens..
SocketRocket
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Its possible to use the internet to find articles that support your opinion, I could easily find countless articles that would support an opinion suggesting the economy is in great shape, employment is the highest ever, people are flooding into the UK from abroad due to the great oppertunities they find here more than other EU countries offer. You would no doubt suggest I was cherry picking articles to support my opinion.
Hacker Khan
Yurt Dwelling, Yoghurt Knitter
So why would we want to leave the EU if everything is so rosy when we are in the EU? All the things you state have happened under the supposed shackles of the EU. Why voluntarily introduce great uncertainty that just about every credible forecast has said would upset the current situation? Seems a bit silly to me really.
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Employment is at the highest ever WHILST we are still in theEU
We also have more population than before there for more people to employ and break the records.
You can cherry pick facts to try and shoe horn into your argument if you want..
SocketRocket
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The EU doesn't create business and jobs here, they are in the main created as small to medium enterprises by ordinary people. Its nothing much to do with our EU membership, if it was then why are all the member countries not flourishing at the same rate.
Anyhow, you are ignoring my point in that post which was to point out posting a link from the net to support our opinions does not mean we are right. Anyone can find a link to support just about any view.
Oh! and I was right that I would be accused of cherry picking to support my opinion.
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SocketRocket
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Woooosssssh !!!! Either you are not reading my post or you are ignoring the point I make. Read it again carefully, especially where I used those points to explain anyone can find links to spurious editorials in an attempt to prop up a poorly thought out theory.
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Yet you use facts that say with the economy in a great position whilst we are in the EU that leaving it will be fine? Ignoring the fact that the economy is so healthy because of EU membership not in spite of it.
SocketRocket
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Nothing to do with membership of the EU. If that was the case all member states would be thriving. If I use FACTS to support my view they must be FACTUAL.
You still didn't read it and take it in ,did you?
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