Breaking down a score

Fader said:
That bit there is the real key. One of the par 5's at my home course I either take a 3wood, Hybrid or 4iron depending on how i'm playing. Never take the driver on that hole and always my playing partners look at me as if to say "its a par 5 let the big dog eat".. Yet its my most birdied hole on my stats in comps throughout the year and i've only bogied it once in medal play and that day was the only time I took the driver!
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Totally agree. My worse driving hole is our 8th, par 5, and just about the easiest hole on the course. Usually down wind and only 475 yards. Get a good drive away, and very reachable in two. Problem was I never could get a good drive away, so now I hit three wood, or hybrid off the tee, and play the hole conservatively. When I checked my hole stats on HDID, I noticed I had had one bogey on the hole all year, all the rest birdies or pars. Now just need to figure out how to play the other 17 holes.;)
 
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louise_a said:
ok, I'll bite.

Yesterday afternoon, I played 9 holes, after 7 holes I was 3 under 5's, and so looking at a low 40s score for 9 holes. Then on the 8th hole I hit one a bit left into the trees, hit a tree trying to find the fairway, so finally on the fairway in 3, hit 4th ok but not great, still 180 from the green, 5th left me still short and in the rough, 6th just off the side of the green chip and 2 putts for a nine and so now 1 over 5 fives, on the last found a bunker, 2 to get out and down in 5, so finished the 9 with 46.

The main problem with people at my level is the likeyhood of one or two holes screwing up a respectable card.
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I agree with this... I have parred & birdie'd all of the holes at my course... The problem is I can't do it in the same round. I regularly play 12 holes very well but the other ones let me down!

Those 12 make me come back everytime though.
 
I have always advocated for most golfers trying to play level 5's (90 shots per round). What you make up for on the short par 4's and the par 3's you can afford to give back on the par 5's and long (400 yard+ par 4s). It doesn't mean a negative approach though.
 
i always set a realistic score in my head and use my course management skills to try and achieve this,it normally gets set at my h/c +1,im more than able to play 98% of the course in par and bar a total meltdown will shoot in the high 70's or low 80's,its all about knowing your limitations and course management,leave the ego in the changing room and play to you own abilities.
 
louise_a said:
ok, I'll bite.

Yesterday afternoon, I played 9 holes, after 7 holes I was 3 under 5's, and so looking at a low 40s score for 9 holes. Then on the 8th hole I hit one a bit left into the trees, hit a tree trying to find the fairway, so finally on the fairway in 3, hit 4th ok but not great, still 180 from the green, 5th left me still short and in the rough, 6th just off the side of the green chip and 2 putts for a nine and so now 1 over 5 fives, on the last found a bunker, 2 to get out and down in 5, so finished the 9 with 46.

The main problem with people at my level is the likeyhood of one or two holes screwing up a respectable card.
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How long is the 8th hole?
 
Robobum said:
On a 6500yd course, that equates to 135yds per shot!!!! (knock down gap wedge for most;))

Now, who the hell shouldn’t knob it round in 90???
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I think that's easier to say than to do......... as he reaches for his driver on the long tree lined par 4 :mad:
 
JustOne said:
I think that's easier to say than to do......... as he reaches for his driver on the long tree lined par 4 :mad:
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If there is any let up in the rain 2morow, I'm gonna play my place with nothing higher than a 7iron. It is, I think, 6300ish from the winter tees.
As long as no one else about, I'll do a live update thread ;)

Jeez, I'm bored
 
actually my drives are usually good these days, just hit that one a bit left, I usually am just short of the green in 3, there ia no guarantee that I am going to hit 3 good irons on the trot, if there was i would be less that 19. I expect to make a mess of a hole or two and also expect to get a few pars, more pars than bad holes and its a godo round, vice versa and its a poor one.
 
I did a thread last year I think, along the lines of.....
Next time you play by yourself and it's quiet, play 2 balls. 1 ball using anything you absolutely know you will hit a fairway with ie 6 7 8 9 iron etc and 1 ball you play the way you normally play ie big dog of most tees, attack all pins etc etc
Do this properly and you'll find the short tee shot ball has a MUCH better score..........

The flip side of all this is theres no fun in playing a 7 iron off the tee:(, we all want to be on both toes smacking it down the centre with a slight draw then a career best PW out the sweetspot that takes one bounce checks and spins 3 feet back to leave a tap in birdie:lol:
The latter is what we all aspire to.............and why not:smirk::fore:
 
Robobum said:
Square 1 ;)
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Golf is not just about ball striking , i have played rounds where i have hit the ball poorly but scored very well due to my short game , thats the key , good course management can be taught but are you good enough to stick to it , also its not about pars and birdies , well it is but when you in trouble can you keep it to a bogey or double and not make it triple or more , thats also a key , 9 holes , you play 7 off them well and will break 90 , but on two hole you run up numbers from nowhere, i always have 5 mins to myself after a medal or stableford round to study my card , not the birdies and pars but the bad holes , could i have scored better then i did , the answer is nearly always yes , so make a note and moved on and try not to repeat it next time
 
I think their is alot of importance in your post round analysis also. When I was off 23 I would feel that I played well and could not understand why I carded a 94/95 and failed to get a cut.

When I started being harsh with my analysis it turned out my irons were not so great, driving was getting me in trouble and the short game was terrible also.
 
Great thread.

I fear though it will be the same as a father trying to tell their child something that the child will only agree with when they are their fathers age.

I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but in a golf book I have there is a great story about Tommy Armor (sp?)
One day he overheard some guys trying to set up a bet in which one of armor's students was challenged to break 90, something which he'd never achieved before.
Armor agreed to back his student with the proviso that he could walk with them and offer his student advice.
On the first hole the student hit his drive into the right rough. It was about 180 to the green which was guarded by bunkers front left and front right. The student pulled his 5 iron and armor told him to put it away and instead hit an 8 iron 30yds short of the green in the fairway between the 2 bunkers. That was a shot that the student was confident in and had a good chance of pulling off, unlike firing at the pin over a bunker from the rough with a 5 iron.
He pitched on and sunk the putt for a par, but the point is that he would score no worse than a bogey by playing shots that he knew he was capable of.

With armor calling shots that he knew the student could play, he went on to not only break 90, but break 80 as well by shooting 78.
 
Region3 said:
Great thread.

I fear though it will be the same as a father trying to tell their child something that the child will only agree with when they are their fathers age.

I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but in a golf book I have there is a great story about Tommy Armor (sp?)
One day he overheard some guys trying to set up a bet in which one of armor's students was challenged to break 90, something which he'd never achieved before.
Armor agreed to back his student with the proviso that he could walk with them and offer his student advice.
On the first hole the student hit his drive into the right rough. It was about 180 to the green which was guarded by bunkers front left and front right. The student pulled his 5 iron and armor told him to put it away and instead hit an 8 iron 30yds short of the green in the fairway between the 2 bunkers. That was a shot that the student was confident in and had a good chance of pulling off, unlike firing at the pin over a bunker from the rough with a 5 iron.
He pitched on and sunk the putt for a par, but the point is that he would score no worse than a bogey by playing shots that he knew he was capable of.

With armor calling shots that he knew the student could play, he went on to not only break 90, but break 80 as well by shooting 78.
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There is a huge lesson to be learned from that story, I would encourage every single person on this forum to read and digest it, irrespective of handicap :thup:
 
Ok, so I managed to get out on the course yesterday and, as it was empty in the afternoon, I played one ball with all my clubs and the other ball using nothing bigger than a 6iron.

Full Bag score
1 501 4
2 141 3
3 357 5
4 372 4
5 166 3
6 325 3
7 492 4
8 180 3
9 493 5
36
10 525 5
11 326 4
12 319 4
13 384 6
14 160 3
15 340 3
16 277 4
17 177 3
18 526 4
36

So a 2 under 70. But played really nicely - 1 bad shot on 13 (a smothered duff!!)

With the other ball:
1 501 6
2 141 3
3 357 4
4 372 5
5 166 3
6 325 3
7 492 6
8 180 3
9 493 6
36
10 525 6
11 326 5
12 319 4
13 384 6
14 160 3
15 340 4
16 277 3
17 177 3
18 526 5
36

So 78 shots for 6 over par.

All the par 5s were out of range in 3, but it was cold and the ball stopped where it pitched. There were 2 terrible shots in there, a pull hook off the 7th tee and an approach on 13 that isn't currently covered by any ball flight laws. I'm naming it the flailing slice!!

So what does that prove? Absolutley nothing really, but when you are trying to get your handicap down and be more consistent - it's not always necessary to go to the long end of the bag for every tee shot. A bit of forward thinking and strategy can stop you racking up thos big numbers.

P.S - ignore the above comment, it's much more fun smashing driver everywhere ;) :)
 
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