"Boys don't wear dresses..."

Hobbit said:
The "right direction..." How confused would a boy be if he feels he is a girl in a boy's body and is forced(his thoughts) to dress wrongly?

Isn't the thought of "right direction" a narrowness of mind, and a prejudice in its own right?
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The right direction is dictated by the narrow mindedness of others.
I don’t get the fear!
 
Bunkermagnet said:
So what you are saying is that the meer act of putting a new born baby boy in a blanket or shawl is the reason an older boy wants to wear a dress?

It has nothing to do with the way you are brought up, it is whats inside your head.
What has changed is that society is more open and communicative about such things, and social media has allowed the World and his dog to interact in yours and anyones life if you choose to let them, along with the internet and forums where the opinionated can judge away to anyone that's reading.

For the record, I thought LH was wrong to say what he did, but at least it was deleted quickly and the apology followed quickly also.
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no. I'm saying that having a boy and treating him like a pansy and acting like a girl will most likely end up making him "different" in later life

and you can't say its what's in you head and not how you are brought up because you don't know. that is your opinion. it's never will and wont be proven either way.

strange children tend it have stange parents. not all the time but most of the time
 
therod said:
What’s your basis for this? Your professional opinion?
The clothes you wear don’t define gender. Gender neutrality or otherwise is a separate issue. As for the bullying, how about this for an idea, what not address the bullying, rather than alienating the victim.
Maybe a lack of understanding should be a barrier to having an opinion?
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first of all i didn't mention the bullying.

second of all i said "i think" ie its my opinion.
 
hovis said:
no. I'm saying that having a boy and treating him like a pansy and acting like a girl will most likely end up making him "different" in later life

and you can't say its what's in you head and not how you are brought up because you don't know. that is your opinion. it's never will and wont be proven either way.

strange children tend it have stange parents. not all the time but most of the time
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To be totally frank, your terminology sums up your mindset and true colours.

Yes we all have different opinions, thats what makes a forum, but I thank you for showing me where your real thoughts are.
 
Bunkermagnet said:
To be totally frank, your terminology sums up your mindset and true colours.

Yes we all have different opinions, thats what makes a forum, but I thank you for showing me where your real thoughts are.
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good. they are my real thoughts. I'm a little surprised why you're thanking me for showing you my thoughts and true colours. why would you care about the thoughts of a stranger?
 
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MegaSteve said:
Out of interest, on the days you wear a dress which lavvies do you use?

I only ask as we had a crossdresser visit my place of work recently and he chose to use the ladies which drew a strongly worded letter of complaint from one of the buildings other tenants...
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How did you know the person was a cross dresser and not a transgendered?
 
hovis said:
no. I'm saying that having a boy and treating him like a pansy and acting like a girl will most likely end up making him "different" in later life

and you can't say its what's in you head and not how you are brought up because you don't know. that is your opinion. it's never will and wont be proven either way.

strange children tend it have stange parents. not all the time but most of the time
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Where your argument falls flat on its face is where there is a family of, say, 4 children one of which is gay. All brought up the same way, all went through the same schools with the same teachers...

"Right direction," and "stop fighting it." And there's now "strange children tend to have strange parents." At least with learned behaviours there's a hope your children will grow up less narrow minded.
 
hovis said:
good. they are my real thoughts. I'm a little surprised why you're thanking me for showing you my thoughts and true colours. why would you care about the thoughts of a stranger?
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Are you allowed to use the internet without supervision? Surely there are laws that protect you & us?
 
therod said:
Are you allowed to use the internet without supervision? Surely there are laws that protect you & us?
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no. Normal people just accept that they don't like what they are hearing and move on with no feelings hurt. some other people however........
 
Hobbit said:
"Right direction," and "stop fighting it." And there's now "strange children tend to have strange parents." At least with learned behaviours there's a hope your children will grow up less narrow minded.
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well, my aim is to steer my child in a direction not to want to have sex with another mans backside and wear high heals. if thats narrow minded then I'll take that thanks.

if he is that way inclined then i can live with that too. I'd just prefer the other
 
hovis said:
well, my aim is to steer my child in a direction not to want to have sex with another mans backside and wear high heals. if thats narrow minded then I'll take that thanks.

if he is that way inclined then i can live with that too. I'd just prefer the other
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I’m not sure that you should be allowed to reproduce either :o
 
Blimey - a bit of an eye opener in some regards but expected with others

For me it’s always about someone’s own personal choice and each and every one of us should be free to make their own choices , my child will be free to be whoever she wants , follow whatever path she wants - she won’t be directed in anyway , she will be helped anytime she needs help. There is no “right direction” and no “wrong direction” if it’s within the laws of the land. There is no “base layer” for each person , we aren’t moulded in the same way , we are unique- if a young boy wants to wear girls clothes - so what ? His choice - suggesting it’s him acting like a “pansy” is the sort of bigoted views that have forced people to hide their true self and leads to bullying and in some cases suicide because they are made to feel like outcasts for not being able to express their true feelings

As for posting or saying opinions - it’s always the same mantra for me - free speech must always come with responsibility and ensure it’s not demeaning or insulting
 
therod said:
It’s not personal, I just don’t think you should pass on this nonsense to the next generation
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earlier in the discussion you said that we should address the bully and not the victim so these people can be free to be different. you then personally attacked me by saying that i shouldn't be allowed to reproduce because in your opinion i am wrong or different. that makes you guilty of your own argument.

i haven't got personal with you... MR bully
 
hovis said:
earlier in the discussion you said that we should address the bully and not the victim so these people can be free to be different. you then personally attacked me by saying that i shouldn't be allowed to reproduce because in your opinion i am wrong or different. that makes you guilty of your own argument.

i haven't got personal with you... MR bully
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I’m out mate. Good luck at the shallow end :thup:
 
hovis said:
well, my aim is to steer my child in a direction not to want to have sex with another mans backside and wear high heals. if thats narrow minded then I'll take that thanks.

if he is that way inclined then i can live with that too. I'd just prefer the other
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You do not steer someone to be gay or transgendered its how they are.

However you could steer them to make them feel guilty about it, try to surpress it and sadly in some cases take their own lives because they cannot cope.
 
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