"Boys don't wear dresses..."

MegaSteve said:
Out of interest, on the days you wear a dress which lavvies do you use?

I only ask as we had a crossdresser visit my place of work recently and he chose to use the ladies which drew a strongly worded letter of complaint from one of the buildings other tenants...
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I can’t believe some fellas get threatened by what clothing some boys choose.
These threads crack me up. It’s a bit like the ones on gay marriage, no one who objects is brave enough to say why they think is wrong, apart from to hide behind the whole ‘pc gone mad’ nonsense.

It must be hard finding the world so scary!!
 
therod said:
I can’t believe some fellas get threatened by what clothing some boys choose.
These threads crack me up. It’s a bit like the ones on gay marriage, no one who objects is brave enough to say why they think is wrong, apart from to hide behind the whole ‘pc gone mad’ nonsense.

It must be hard finding the world so scary!!
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I genuinely get where you are coming from...
And, the scenario I used is a genuine one and as far as I am aware there are still ongoing talks as to what to do in the future...

Life isn't always straightforward...
 
MegaSteve said:
Out of interest, on the days you wear a dress which lavvies do you use?

I only ask as we had a crossdresser visit my place of work recently and he chose to use the ladies which drew a strongly worded letter of complaint from one of the buildings other tenants...
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Unless the person involved did something inappropriate (which tbh has little to do with what they wear) what was the complaint about!?
 
I would say a cross dresser is a very different set up to a transgender person who is going through the change. A cross dresser, assuming male, still has full male anatomy but likes to dress as a woman. A transgender person, again assuming male in this situation, would like to become a woman and so will ultimately be using the ladies shortly anyway.

A minefield of an area whilst people are transitioning. I've discussed it with the women at my firm and whilst they were very open to the idea at first they were less so when they thought further about it. We are very small, based in a small rural town so the situation is unlikely to arise but bigger firms in cities are going to face some uncomfortable toilet questions in the coming months and years.
 
Hamilton may live in the public eye, probably courts it to raise his profile, but his 5 yr old nephew doesn't and shouldn't be exposed to it irrespective of what he was wearing.

Other than that, just what is all the fuss about? The only conformity I see as valid is that of a uniform in certain business/occupation environments. Even then there may be some latitude, e.g. an air steward wearing a skirt that a stewardess might wear. Personally, I couldn't give a toss.

Same goes for make up. If a guy turns up on the 1st tee with eye shadow and lipstick, so what. High heels on the green are a no-no though.
 
boys shouldn't be wearing dresses and parents should be steering their child in the right direction before that child grows into a confused man with big problems. if he gets to adulthood and still wants to wear a dress then crack on. its his life....
 
hovis said:
boys shouldn't be wearing dresses and parents should be steering their child in the right direction before that child grows into a confused man with big problems. if he gets to adulthood and still wants to wear a dress then crack on. its his life....
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I agree with you but no doubt according to others we are dinosaurs living in the dark ages.
 
drive4show said:
I agree with you but no doubt according to others we are dinosaurs living in the dark ages.
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Surely in the world of free speech, people should be able to disagree with what ever they don’t believe in. If you think it is wrong for a man/boy to wear a dress, you should be able to say that without being branded a dinosaur. But it seems like the world has gone too far one way and if you disagree with the new PC thinking then you are in the wrong and should be shot.

and before anyone jumps on this, I am just advocating making your thoughts known and in no way am I condoning bullying, violence or any other kind of discrimination
 
hovis said:
boys shouldn't be wearing dresses and parents should be steering their child in the right direction before that child grows into a confused man with big problems. if he gets to adulthood and still wants to wear a dress then crack on. its his life....
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The "right direction..." How confused would a boy be if he feels he is a girl in a boy's body and is forced(his thoughts) to dress wrongly?

Isn't the thought of "right direction" a narrowness of mind, and a prejudice in its own right?
 
Hobbit said:
The "right direction..." How confused would a boy be if he feels he is a girl in a boy's body and is forced(his thoughts) to dress wrongly?

Isn't the thought of "right direction" a narrowness of mind, and a prejudice in its own right?
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no i Dont think it is. if a boy feels like a girl but in a boys body then i put that blame at the feet of the parents. i dont think we are wired differently from birth. i personally believe that we are born a blank book. but thats just my opinion. i think that allowing a boy to be a girl only adds to the confusion.

however, if the the boy is persistent in being a girl then there has to be a point when you stop fighting it and support them. i just think that you should exhaust all your opinions before you allow your child to grow up looking like Eddie izzard
 
hovis said:
no i Dont think it is. if a boy feels like a girl but in a boys body then i put that blame at the feet of the parents. i dont think we are wired differently from birth. i personally believe that we are born a blank book. but thats just my opinion. i think that allowing a boy to be a girl only adds to the confusion.
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So what you are saying is that the meer act of putting a new born baby boy in a blanket or shawl is the reason an older boy wants to wear a dress?

It has nothing to do with the way you are brought up, it is whats inside your head.
What has changed is that society is more open and communicative about such things, and social media has allowed the World and his dog to interact in yours and anyones life if you choose to let them, along with the internet and forums where the opinionated can judge away to anyone that's reading.

For the record, I thought LH was wrong to say what he did, but at least it was deleted quickly and the apology followed quickly also.
 
hovis said:
no i Dont think it is. if a boy feels like a girl but in a boys body then i put that blame at the feet of the parents. i dont think we are wired differently from birth. i personally believe that we are born a blank book. but thats just my opinion. i think that allowing a boy to be a girl only adds to the confusion.

however, if the the boy is persistent in being a girl then there has to be a point when you stop fighting it and support them. i just think that you should exhaust all your opinions before you allow your child to grow up looking like Eddie izzard
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What’s your basis for this? Your professional opinion?
The clothes you wear don’t define gender. Gender neutrality or otherwise is a separate issue. As for the bullying, how about this for an idea, what not address the bullying, rather than alienating the victim.
Maybe a lack of understanding should be a barrier to having an opinion?
 
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