Boris the PM - a new beginning

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SwingsitlikeHogan said:
She should be sacked for posting such defamatory rubbish - and a Health minister into the bargain. Maybe she felt she needed to start trying to undermine Starmer given he seems to know how to expose Johnson as the 'all skirt nae knickers' politician that he is.
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It seems as though Keir Starmer has accepted the rebuke that has been handed out to those that re-tweeted the libellous/defamatory tweets. I can only hope that in similar circumstances that I would be so willing to accept this outcome rather than to take further action....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52653609
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
She should be sacked for posting such defamatory rubbish - and a Health minister into the bargain. Maybe she felt she needed to start trying to undermine Starmer given he seems to know how to expose Johnson as the 'all skirt nae knickers' politician that he is.
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i cant believe this level of stupidity and one is Gov Minister:rolleyes:
 
Are we really that surprised? Have a look at the last couple of pages of the labour leader discussion on here. Someone immediately came in with a selection of Jimmy Saville 'facts' but to stir things up, it just didn't get any hold (this time).

Today's politics is not about doing well, it is about slandering the other guy. And the more dirt somebody has on themselves the more they make up stuff about the other guy, pay people to do so, and keep repeating it until people dumb enough start to believe and keep sharing it as well.
 
Read tonight that Boris has appeared at the daily briefings 4 times in the last 8 weeks. I know he was out of action for a couple of weeks, but his lack of visibility at a time of crisis is really worrying. The only time we seem to hear from him now is his weekly roasting at PMQs.

I'm not a great fan of Sturgeon, but to give her her due, she has given her briefing for 56 days on the trot.
 
rudebhoy said:
Read tonight that Boris has appeared at the daily briefings 4 times in the last 8 weeks. I know he was out of action for a couple of weeks, but his lack of visibility at a time of crisis is really worrying. The only time we seem to hear from him now is his weekly roasting at PMQs.

I'm not a great fan of Sturgeon, but to give her her due, she has given her briefing for 56 days on the trot.
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they appear to be going though all minsters in an attemp to find one who will not look out of their depth, i wouldn't be sup if one day we get the caretaker from Conservative HQ
 
patricks148 said:
they appear to be going though all minsters in an attemp to find one who will not look out of their depth, i wouldn't be sup if one day we get the caretaker from Conservative HQ
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The caretaker? Careful now - I got criticised for suggesting that we were getting ministers from the 2nd 11.? Though to be fair, as he was new to me he didn’t come with the dissembling baggage most come with and so I was able to listen to him (nearly) without any great prejudice ?
 
The consistency of the Scottish Governments messaging is certainly backed up by one person delivering it.
84% backing is huge.(y)
Jean Freeman has also been a bit of a star, she is my MSP and to be honest I never thought she had that degree of ability.
Tough role being Health Minister at the moment, some of the opposition MSP's and unionist journalists questions make you just want to shake your head.
They also just keep asking the same questions over and over again.
I really don't know how Nicola has remained so calm in the face of such stupidity.
 
rudebhoy said:
Read tonight that Boris has appeared at the daily briefings 4 times in the last 8 weeks. I know he was out of action for a couple of weeks, but his lack of visibility at a time of crisis is really worrying. The only time we seem to hear from him now is his weekly roasting at PMQs.

I'm not a great fan of Sturgeon, but to give her her due, she has given her briefing for 56 days on the trot.
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I'm not a fan of Boris, but to give him the FULL benefit of the truth, did you think not to look when Boris came back to work. It was :-

27 April 2020.

Not quite 8 weeks or a couple of week out of action, don't let the truth get in the way of a good made up story.

Also to be fair to him, he spent time in Hospital and in intensive care, do you think on the 27/4/20 he was fully fit. I would bet a penny he was not, he was probably still knackered.
 
DRW said:
I'm not a fan of Boris, but to give him the FULL benefit of the truth, did you think not to look when Boris came back to work. It was :-

27 April 2020.

Not quite 8 weeks or a couple of week out of action, don't let the truth get in the way of a good made up story.

Also to be fair to him, he spent time in Hospital and in intensive care, do you think on the 27/4/20 he was fully fit. I would bet a penny he was not, he was probably still knackered.
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I think the common view among medic is - Recovery from a mild dose is about 2 weeks, serious dose 8 weeks with tiredness lasting longer (BBC summary)
 
DRW said:
Also to be fair to him, he spent time in Hospital and in intensive care, do you think on the 27/4/20 he was fully fit. I would bet a penny he was not, he was probably still knackered.
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I wasn't in hospital and I still felt like i'd been beaten up with a baseball bat for a couple weeks after the quarantine period with my suspected case. Not nice at all.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
The caretaker? Careful now - I got criticised for suggesting that we were getting ministers from the 2nd 11.? Though to be fair, as he was new to me he didn’t come with the dissembling baggage most come with and so I was able to listen to him (nearly) without any great prejudice ?
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You certainly come over as not being able to listen to anyone from this government without prejudice. Now you've virtually admitted it.
I always thought it good practice to listen to people without prejudice and then examine what was said and then make a conclusion.
 
DRW said:
I'm not a fan of Boris, but to give him the FULL benefit of the truth, did you think not to look when Boris came back to work. It was :-

27 April 2020.

Not quite 8 weeks or a couple of week out of action, don't let the truth get in the way of a good made up story.
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I wasn't talking about when he came back to work, I was talking about him being visible and broadcasting to the nation. The daily briefings are a great platform to get the govts message across, unfortunately it feels like he'd rather not do that.

But you are right, it's not 8 weeks, it's actually 9 weeks and 3 days since they started.
 
rudebhoy said:
I wasn't talking about when he came back to work, I was talking about him being visible and broadcasting to the nation. The daily briefings are a great platform to get the govts message across, unfortunately it feels like he'd rather not do that.

But you are right, it's not 8 weeks, it's actually 9 weeks and 3 days since they started.
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Bizarre, how can he be visible when in hospital or ill with the virus.

Blimely think I will leave it at that, as don't really have anything to say or add, if you feel that he should be judged on his performance for the whole period.

Tend to also agree with LT, quite like hearing from the separate MPs over their own areas.

Yeah I would like to see the PM fronting say one a week, for an overall update but not when in hospital or seriously ill (and not going to judge someone not attending, when he is in hospital/ill, unlike others;))
 
DRW said:
Bizarre, how can he be visible when in hospital or ill with the virus.

Blimely think I will leave it at that, as don't really have anything to say or add, if you feel that he should be judged on his performance for the whole period.

Tend to also agree with LT, quite like hearing from the separate MPs over their own areas.

Yeah I would like to see the PM fronting say one a week, for an overall update but not when in hospital or seriously ill (and not going to judge someone not attending, when he is in hospital/ill, unlike others;))
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where did I say that? if you look at the original post, I gave him a bye for the time he was out of action. But putting that time period aside, 4 appearances in the remaining 6-7 week is poor.

He does seem scared of tough questions. PMQs have been a nightmare for him, and remember him dodging Andrew Neil at the GE after every other leader had been on.
 
rudebhoy said:
where did I say that? if you look at the original post, I gave him a bye for the time he was out of action. But putting that time period aside, 4 appearances in the remaining 6-7 week is poor.

He does seem scared of tough questions. PMQs have been a nightmare for him, and remember him dodging Andrew Neil at the GE after every other leader had been on.
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He went down with the virus on 27 March and back to work 27 April.

He would have been still ill even on the 27/4 and not 100%, probably still isn't.

You said he fronted it out 4 times in 8 weeks, then amended that to be 9 weeks 3 days and compared it to NS. When the facts show he was ill and in hospital for some, so a pointless 4 out of 8 weeks/9 weeks 3 days.

The rest is moving the subject onto areas, I am not interested in.

As I say I am no boris lover, but not blinded by that and do like the actual facts to be facts and not twisted, as the straight facts speak for themselves, which is why I posted.

I wish you well, have fun.(y)
 
Anyone who is or has been ill should be given the care and then time to recover.

The Government should, imo, have put him to one side as soon as he was admitted to hospital so he could get on with looking after himself and get the care he needed.

At the time we were told he was still in charge and receiving briefings etc, afterwards we are told he was at deaths door.

Come on, it’s treating us like idiots!

The Country does not depend on one person and procedures that are in place should be activated sooner when our PM is seriously ill.

It is not right or fair that someone should continue to bare that responsibility when fighting for their life.

The above should be regardless of personality or political allegiance.
 
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