Boris the PM - a new beginning

[ScienceBoy]

Boris has got to stick to it, super tough to negotiate any decent deal with Europe without the possibility of no deal exit. EU are not muppets and won’t budge.

We only have two options, which were the only viable two from the beginning.

No deal exit or revoke A50. But who is brave enough to take one of these through to completion?

 

[Doon frae Troon]

The SNP do not respect the result of ANY vote, unless of course it's what they wanted. They are the MOST undemocratic party currently in the UK

Perhaps that is because they want to be out of the UK [hence being called the SNP].....which obviously translates into them doing a good job.

 

[Parsaregood]

Perhaps that is because they want to be out of the UK [hence being called the SNP].....which obviously translates into them doing a good job.

Out the UK to be independent but hop in to the EU to be truly non-independent. Laughable

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

It's a shame most Scottish SNP voters,ex-labour voters, are not too clued up on politics and cant see them for what they are

That same charge could be aimed at the wider UK electorate in respect of something else

 

[Dando]

That same charge could be aimed at the wider UK electorate in respect of something else

Can you please stay away from this thread as well

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Can you please stay away from this thread as well

And now why would you want me to do that? Is it cos I think Johnson is a lying, scheming, self-serving charlatan with Wormtongue at his ear.

I am sure that he will one day realise the error of his ways and repent. Meanwhile I wish him no ill.

 

[Swinglowandslow]

And now why would you want me to do that? Is it cos I think Johnson is a lying, scheming, self-serving charlatan with Wormtongue at his ear.

I am sure that he will one day realise the error of his ways and repent. Meanwhile I wish him no ill.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure he's relieved about that

 

[Colonel Bogey]

Perhaps that is because they want to be out of the UK [hence being called the SNP].....which obviously translates into them doing a good job.

But not representing the people who voted to stay in the UK. Admittedly they also voted to stay in the EU, but you know, you can't have everything, although it appears the Scots think they can.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

But not representing the people who voted to stay in the UK. Admittedly they also voted to stay in the EU, but you know, you can't have everything, although it appears the Scots think they can.

Would that be like Mr Johnson's 30th September 2016 words.

From https://quotebrexit.wordpress.com/2016/11/07/boris-we-can-have-our-cake-and-eat-it/

On the phrase ‘hard Brexit’ itself, Boris insisted: “I don’t recognise this term.

“We are going to have a deal that works.”

He also insisted we will get immigration controls back as well as continuing open trade with the EU.

Mr Johnson told The Sun: “Our policy is having our cake and eating it.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

What an awful performance at his first QT by our new PM - and the first ever t lose his first three votes?

But today the right wing press have a go at Corbyn and ignore the shambles that was our PM yesterday. And Leavers cheer him and jeer Corbyn.

 

[Hobbit]

What an awful performance at his first QT by our new PM - and the first ever t lose his first three votes?

But today the right wing press have a go at Corbyn and ignore the shambles that was our PM yesterday. And Leavers cheer him and jeer Corbyn.

That's all down to personal opinion though Hugh. The HoC is a bear pit during PM's QT and has been for years. YouTube has plenty of evidence of that.

As for Corbyn, I thought he performed reasonably well, as I would expect of any seasoned politician, but I thought he was a massive hypocrite all the way through, more so now.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

What is a good performance at PMQ's? Is it the ability to humiliate someone more than they can humiliate you? Nothing constructive comes out of it, it bears no relevance to the job a person can do. Why not just put up a comedian who can make jibes and put down hecklers and leave the PM to get on with the actual job. PMQ's is an absolute waste of time, it doesn't serve the purpose it is supposed to.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

What is a good performance at PMQ's? Is it the ability to humiliate someone more than they can humiliate you? Nothing constructive comes out of it, it bears no relevance to the job a person can do. Why not just put up a comedian who can make jibes and put down hecklers and leave the PM to get on with the actual job. PMQ's is an absolute waste of time, it doesn't serve the purpose it is supposed to.

Johnson was put in his box by Ian Blackford telling the new boy how PMQ's works.
'We ask the questions and you answer them'''.

 

[Dando]

Johnson was put in his box by Ian Blackford telling the new boy how PMQ's works.
'We ask the questions and you answer them'''.

is that the same Blackford who wants Boris to uphold the result of the vote while doing everything he can to stop the result of a vote being upheld.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

And so we have Jo Johnson resigning because of the unresolvable tension between family and the national interest. The National Interest

Even Johnson's own brother does not trust him - and believes the path the Johnson is pursuing is against the national interest - but does not want to embarrass BJ by forcing him to sack his own brother. And as Minister for USR&I he would have been fully cognisant of the contents of Yellowhammer and other risk briefings.

And yet...the Sun in England chooses to have a picture of a chicken with Corbyn's head.

Note that that is not the front page of the Scottish Sun. Clearly Tony Gallagher realises that there is no point in pandering to English Nationalism in a Scottish newspaper - or maybe the editor of the Scottish Sun knows it. They realise that Scottish readers haven't been so duped by the English anti-EU press to the extent that Gallagher clearly thinks their English readers have been. Gallagher must think his English readers are stupid.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

That's all down to personal opinion though Hugh. The HoC is a bear pit during PM's QT and has been for years. YouTube has plenty of evidence of that.

As for Corbyn, I thought he performed reasonably well, as I would expect of any seasoned politician, but I thought he was a massive hypocrite all the way through, more so now.

Yes - I thought Corbyn did OK - and better than Johnson - but that is only because Johnson was so utterly dire...at times rambling and ranting almost incoherently as the words came tumbling out of his mouth and he gesticulated right, left and centre. Our Prime Minster?

Having viewed Johnson's performances yesterday his brother must have reflected on things overnight and reached the conclusion that he has.

So one might reasonably deduce that JJs thinking was that it wasn't such a great performance...

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Johnson was put in his box by Ian Blackford telling the new boy how PMQ's works.
'We ask the questions and you answer them'''.

MP's don't ask questions, they make statements, go on rants. It is about points scoring, not actually holding the PM and govt to account. It is incredibly petty and no one comes out of it well, even your beloved SNP.

Corbyn started his time in opposition asking genuine questions but that has gone now as well and he is just as bad.

At some point soon they have to leave parliament as it gets a major refit. I sincerely hope that the place they move to is set out in a less adversarial fashion. The design of the chamber really does not help. It encourages yah boo politics and no party escapes with credit.

 

[drdel]

Would that be like Mr Johnson's 30th September 2016 words.

From https://quotebrexit.wordpress.com/2016/11/07/boris-we-can-have-our-cake-and-eat-it/

On the phrase ‘hard Brexit’ itself, Boris insisted: “I don’t recognise this term.

“We are going to have a deal that works.”

He also insisted we will get immigration controls back as well as continuing open trade with the EU.

Mr Johnson told The Sun: “Our policy is having our cake and eating it.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander?

And there will be a 'deal' that works because business and trade will continue - the world is not going to stop because of daft ego driven politicians and the Brussels mafia. Sure certain international regs will change and some costs will jump about and the city will cash in. So when the PM says he'll get a deal he's right even if its just WTO with a few bells and whistles.

He can claim, like all politicians do, that immigration is 'under control' because the metrics are so confused as to what is counted.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

And there will be a 'deal' that works because business and trade will continue - the world is not going to stop because of daft ego driven politicians and the Brussels mafia. Sure certain international regs will change and some costs will jump about and the city will cash in. So when the PM says he'll get a deal he's right even if its just WTO with a few bells and whistles.

He can claim, like all politicians do, that immigration is 'under control' because the metrics are so confused as to what is counted.

Quite right - though I don't think anybody ever said the world would come to an end - Armageddon will ensue - following No Deal. And May's 10's of thousands nett immigration has been consigned by her party to the dustbin as the arrant nonsense and rubbish it always was - but OK - that was her attempt to keep Faragist Brextremists on board.

Actually my post was a simple response to Colonel Bogey's

"...but you know, you can't have everything, although it appears the Scots think they can"

And just noted that Johnson - now our PM - was claiming that indeed the UK could have everything when we have left the EU. So not only the Scots think that (if indeed they do).

 

[Doon frae Troon]

My gawd,that police speech was a total disaster, Benny Hill turns into Mr Bumble
I said to Lady Doon that the press now realise he is yesterday's man, she said that he never even became today's man