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What part of 'since EVIL' did you not understand.:love:

Ahh, of course, and I'm just guessing, but isn't it something to do with the devolution and segregation Scotland wanted from Parliament while keeping its own MPs like Blackford, in the UK parliament. So you have a Devolved Assembly with a First Minister but you want to have the PM bit as well.
 
all the capitopl projects i mentioned wouldn't have been done without those hand outs...Esp up here in the Highlands, it would still be taking 3 hours to get to Dornoch without it now its 4 mins,fancy going to Skye, before you would have had to get a boat, drive up the west coast or get from Village to Village in some parts, no problem, add a few hours onto your trip for a 10 mine journey... no problem.

while all the Gov funding on infrastructure was being spent down south, we go nothing its little supprise many are seeing the EU as a better alternative to an unequal society that England seems to be happy with.

the sort of attitude you are protraying here is one of the things thats making Indy ref 2 a thing to look forward to;)
Where do you think that money comes from, the EU dont earn money, they take it from us. The UK is a net contributer to the EU so the money is our own anyway, most of it probably from London.
 
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Where do you think that money comes from, the EU dont earn money, they take it from us. The UK is a net contributer to the EU so the money is our own anyway, most of it probably from London.
well if the UK Tory Gov for the 80's 90 and invested in the rest of the uk and Scotlands infrastructure maybe things would be different:)
 
Here’s something else that will make your Tam spin...

We already know that the Scots rejected independence in 2014...so could it not be that they voted Remain because the BRITISH government told them to? This would also explain the N.Ireland vote. Would the Ulster Proddies vote AGAINST any British government? No chance.

I think you have been duped by the SNP...again.

Oh dear.:(
 
Ahh, of course, and I'm just guessing, but isn't it something to do with the devolution and segregation Scotland wanted from Parliament while keeping its own MPs like Blackford, in the UK parliament. So you have a Devolved Assembly with a First Minister but you want to have the PM bit as well.

Are you even remotely aware that if the Cameron government had fulfilled their promise to Scotland of The Vow that we would not even be having this conversation.
Hours after the referendum The Tories come up with EVIL cancelled The VOW and the support for Scottish Independence grew even stronger.
That is why we are where we are today.
 
Ahh, of course, and I'm just guessing, but isn't it something to do with the devolution and segregation Scotland wanted from Parliament while keeping its own MPs like Blackford, in the UK parliament. So you have a Devolved Assembly with a First Minister but you want to have the PM bit as well.


Are you suggesting that the UK is not a democracy and only England can control the UK.
 
Are you suggesting that the UK is not a democracy and only England can control the UK.

I think in our banter we may be taking the thread of on too much of a tangent. Suffice to say that my posts were careful to avoid specifying 'England'. I strongly believe that there should be democratic equity for any and all citizens of the UK. Thus I'm of the personal opinion that the UK is too small to be incurring the costs, inequalities and disruption of running devolved 'governments' unless they each take full responsibilities.
 
all the capitopl projects i mentioned wouldn't have been done without those hand outs...Esp up here in the Highlands, it would still be taking 3 hours to get to Dornoch without it now its 4 mins,fancy going to Skye, before you would have had to get a boat, drive up the west coast or get from Village to Village in some parts, no problem, add a few hours onto your trip for a 10 mine journey... no problem.

while all the Gov funding on infrastructure was being spent down south, we go nothing its little supprise many are seeing the EU as a better alternative to an unequal society that England seems to be happy with.

the sort of attitude you are protraying here is one of the things thats making Indy ref 2 a thing to look forward to;)

Don’t get me wrong. I actually like the Scots on a personal level. As I’ve mentioned on other threads I enjoy visiting the Wife’s family in the Highlands, we play Nethy and Carbridge open a bottle or two and have some great craic, but my goodness they love to moan.
If it was ever possible to win a gold medal or World Cup for looking at everything with the” glass is half empty” attitude then you would take some beating….. As dominant as the Germans at football or New Zealand at rugby I reckon, you are masters of turning positives into negatives.

You get a vote on independence and vote to stay in the UK, Then you moan, moan, moan about England and vote for those incompetent, miserable lefty’s the SNP just because they hate the English... do you not see our resentment? How do you honestly think you are viewed by the rest of the U.K.?
 
Don’t get me wrong. I actually like the Scots on a personal level. As I’ve mentioned on other threads I enjoy visiting the Wife’s family in the Highlands, we play Nethy and Carbridge open a bottle or two and have some great craic, but my goodness they love to moan.
If it was ever possible to win a gold medal or World Cup for looking at everything with the” glass is half empty” attitude then you would take some beating….. As dominant as the Germans at football or New Zealand at rugby I reckon, you are masters of turning positives into negatives.

You get a vote on independence and vote to stay in the UK, Then you moan, moan, moan about England and vote for those incompetent, miserable lefty’s the SNP just because they hate the English... do you not see our resentment? How do you honestly think you are viewed by the rest of the U.K.?

so told in the indy ref if we left the UK, scotland would be out of the EU.... suprise, suprise middle England want to leave the EU....lol ..you couldn't make it up. i would stop now if i were you, the hole you are digging is pretty big already:LOL::LOL:
 
so told in the indy ref if we left the UK, scotland would be out of the EU.... suprise, suprise middle England want to leave the EU....lol ..you couldn't make it up. i would stop now if i were you, the hole you are digging is pretty big already:LOL::LOL:

What’s this obsession with the EU?

Will they give you powers over your own laws and tax? I think not.

Will they give a *** about your fishing or industries? I think not.

Will they put up with your constant moaning? Hell no!

You want to go from one Union where you are massively over represented in running the show to trying to join another union where you will have the same status as Bulgaria. It honestly beggars belief!
 
What’s this obsession with the EU?

Will they give you powers over your own laws and tax? I think not.

Will they give a *** about your fishing or industries? I think not.

Will they put up with your constant moaning? Hell no!

You want to go from one Union where you are massively over represented in running the show to trying to join another union where you will have the same status as Bulgaria. It honestly beggars belief!
LOL you should become an MP, lol never heard so much tripe :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

when it comes to moaning all ive heard on here is you moaning about Scotland

when you have had 400 years of rule by another country where you paid tax and got sweet fanny addams back, the all the money from oil at its height went into the Westminster Gov. with nothing being spent on Scotland for years, its industries left to rot, and the only investment came from EU funding.

With the devolved Scottish Parlament we have had some laws back, but not all.

Even Labour re wrote the maritime boubdries so some of the richest oil field are now in English waters

As for Fishing i think TM tried to Bargain that away straight away anything so it will be no change as the scottish fishing industry was sold down the river by the Tories when we joint the EU in the first place
 
For information, the Fishing and Agriculture ministers [Gove's lot] has just stolen £162m of EU monies due to Scotland and said it will spread it around the UK in areas where that type of funding is not available. It was meant for the Highlands of Scotland.
 
LOL you should become an MP, lol never heard so much tripe :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

when it comes to moaning all ive heard on here is you moaning about Scotland

when you have had 400 years of rule by another country where you paid tax and got sweet fanny addams back, the all the money from oil at its height went into the Westminster Gov. with nothing being spent on Scotland for years, its industries left to rot, and the only investment came from EU funding.

With the devolved Scottish Parlament we have had some laws back, but not all.

Even Labour re wrote the maritime boubdries so some of the richest oil field are now in English waters

As for Fishing i think TM tried to Bargain that away straight away anything so it will be no change as the scottish fishing industry was sold down the river by the Tories when we joint the EU in the first place

The bold part is word perfect from the SNP handbook. Well done, wee Niccola would be proud.

400 year old grudges! 😂🤣😂 you couldn’t make it up! .... seriously though Patrick will never amount to anything if you won’t let go of the past. 🙁
 
The bold part is word perfect from the SNP handbook. Well done, wee Niccola would be proud.

400 year old grudges! 😂🤣😂 you couldn’t make it up! .... seriously though Patrick will never amount to anything if you won’t let go of the past. 🙁

I'm no SNP supporter, so you are barking up the wrong tree, just letting know the strength of what some feel and i can understand the resentment.. FYI i was not born in Scotland;)


whats the saying walk a mile in someone elses shoes and you will truly understand them.

In all your replies there have been insults thown at Scotland and its choices, England had its choice, whats wrong with others having theres? and i say others becaus by the look of things Wales might be going the same way
 
I'm no SNP supporter, so you are barking up the wrong tree, just letting know the strength of what some feel and i can understand the resentment.. FYI i was not born in Scotland;)


whats the saying walk a mile in someone elses shoes and you will truly understand them.

In all your replies there have been insults thown at Scotland and its choices, England had its choice, whats wrong with others having theres? and i say others becaus by the look of things Wales might be going the same way


This works both ways though. Try to see our point of view, you take take take but nothing seems enough to make you happy. The tail is always trying to wag the dog.
 
F&D tell me where the main centres of wealth and investment are in the UK then see how that aligns with your take take scenario.
Steady though, you are getting perilously close to the deep fried mars bars, all Scots are unemployed type.
 
I'm no SNP supporter, so you are barking up the wrong tree, just letting know the strength of what some feel and i can understand the resentment.. FYI i was not born in Scotland;)


whats the saying walk a mile in someone elses shoes and you will truly understand them.

In all your replies there have been insults thown at Scotland and its choices, England had its choice, whats wrong with others having theres? and i say others becaus by the look of things Wales might be going the same way

Still believe Scotland made the wrong choice at indyref #1...

And, it would be warmly welcomed if the good people, from north of the wall, would desist from telling us (from south of the wall) that they feel we got it wrong wishing to brexit...
 
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