Bob

[bluewolf]

+1, always got good solid advice offered if you wanted to take it up, it was up to you .. he didnt say he was going (did he?) so hopefuly not the case ..

Bob if you were thinking of it and are lurking the apreciative ones on here far out weigh the non apreciative ones ,& just so ya know your help is always welcomed & apreciated .. Ta

Fully agree. Come back Bob.

 

[Hobbit]

+1 Having different opinions is fine and this game has a wealth of coaches who will teach differently BUT it got to the point when he seemed to be questioned on anything he contributed which is sad. I miss him.

Out of curiosity I've looked back through the last months worth of Bob's postings and it quite sad to see how much he's been picked apart. The guy has a wealth of knowledge and the ability to get it across in a simple, easy to understand, way.

And the most important thing; he's been taught to teach, unlike some who are well intentioned but... Would you call in a plumber if you wanted your house rewiring?

 

[deanobillquay]

He's one of the very few people on here who can actually be called an expert without reproach.

 

[Dodger]

He's one of the very few people on here who can actually be called an expert without reproach.

Actually at the moment he is THE only person.

Many who think they are though.

I am 100% with Hobbit,would you call a plumber to re-wire your house? It appears some,and one in particular,would.

I for one hope he hasn't left the building.

 

[GreiginFife]

I must have missed all this, but why has Bob been getting questioned?
As many have pointed out he is fully qualified to be and to be called an expert and his advice has always been simple, effective and high quality.
I did notice I hadn't seen him post but thought he was off having a well deserved holiday for all the unpaid hours he puts in helping us lot.

 

[JustOne]

would you call a plumber to re-wire your house? It appears some,and one in particular,would.

Me?

Bob can post whatever he likes, it's fine by me, it always has been, it's the nature of an online forum, problem is he seemed to want to pick HIS OWN fight with every post... and then when the other person put their argument forward he'd threaten to leave. If he want's a break then good for him. I'm not just talking about myself he seemed to be confronted by anything that Socket, Foxy and many others post too.

I can barely post a thing on the forum without it being ridiculed or questioned by someone, I'm used to it though, it's just one of those things and I can cope because i'm prepared to justify every one of my posts.

Actually at the moment he is THE only person.

SamQuirkePGA is a PGA professional instructor.

 

[bladeplayer]

, problem is he seemed to want to pick HIS OWN fight with every post... and then when the other person put their argument forward he'd threaten to leave..



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Speaking totaly from a personal point of view i definatly have NEVER seen or read Bob EVER trying to pick a fight .. and i mean ever ..
Thats just my observation , its not my place to defend Bob or anyone else on here , i dont know Bob , I dont know anything about Bob , never met the guy but ALWAYS found him friendly helpful and courtious to anyone tha has posted a question or query ..

Mind you , one thing i did notice over my time on here, is how many people never bothered to say Thank You to him . but still for no reward the advice & help flowed ..


Anyhow as with every thing else , thats just my opinion ,

 

[ScienceBoy]

I owe that man quite a bit, I fully intend to get a short game lesson with him one day. Its just a bit tricky living so far away but as my move to Cambridge is imminent I think an hour or so up the road for a full session with the old gent is more than worth it! Also I can get that round in with the prodigal son of bobs from belton park

 

[Alex1975]

Its a forum, a melting pot of ideas, its the nature of the beast that we knock heads. Never been on any type of forum where it did not happen from overclocking computers to games to sports.

 

[Dorian]

Bob as we know is a PGA teaching professional, therefore an expert in his field.
He knows more about this game than almost everybody on this forum.

I think he has got cheesed off by certain people always questioning the FREE help and advice he willingly gives out.

I fully understand the concept of banter, but the continual sniping is very wearing

When/if Uncle Bob comes back, some of us need to keep our thoughts to ourselves

Fragger

Questioning the advice you're given is a healthy part of learning. I can't see why someone should take anything as gospel whether they're told by an expert or not.

Recently he added to a post I made. I asked another question in response to his advice and he never elaborated. I would have preferred him to clarify his statements rather than be expected to shut up and do as I'm told.

Out of curiosity I've looked back through the last months worth of Bob's postings and it quite sad to see how much he's been picked apart. The guy has a wealth of knowledge and the ability to get it across in a simple, easy to understand, way.

And the most important thing; he's been taught to teach, unlike some who are well intentioned but... Would you call in a plumber if you wanted your house rewiring?

[sarcasm] Actually, plumbers can be qualified to do some amount of wiring. Depends what you need done. [/sarcasm]

All in all you can never have enough expertise shared. But don't act like a nancy if someone questions the logic.

 

[bladeplayer]

All in all you can never have enough expertise shared.


But don't act like a nancy if someone questions the logic.

No offence what so ever meant here so please dont think there is , and i apreciate you are giving your opinion as you see it so that is respected ,

Totaly agree on the expertise shared bit ..
but on the second bit , do you not think it may be a hasty assumption/statement after 1 month ? ?

 

[chris661]

but on the second bit , do you not think it may be a hasty assumption/statement after 1 month ? ?

Why? Would it be ok to say similar if he had been here 3 months or 6 months or a year?

 

[Dorian]

Ok, maybe my wording was a bit harsh. What was meant by that was: don't get too emotional if someone questions your advice. Maybe they haven't understood the point or have convinced themselves of the validity of contradictory 'expertise'.

I'll try to reign the phrasing in next time.

 

[Qwerty]

Speaking totaly from a personal point of view i definatly have NEVER seen or read Bob EVER trying to pick a fight .. and i mean ever ..
Thats just my observation , its not my place to defend Bob or anyone else on here , i dont know Bob , I dont know anything about Bob , never met the guy but ALWAYS found him friendly helpful and courtious to anyone tha has posted a question or query ..

Mind you , one thing i did notice over my time on here, is how many people never bothered to say Thank You to him . but still for no reward the advice & help flowed ..

This.

I'm more of a reader than a poster, but in the few years I've been on here I've only ever seen the guy trying to help people with their game.
I've never seen him pick a fight or go looking for one. If he thought he could help he would. If he thought someone was talking crap he'd step in,In a non obtrusive manner, but he never went looking to pick a fight.
Reading between the lines I think he was also constantly helping more than a few on here Via PM.

He's contributed a huge amount to the forum over the years, and this place will be a much poorer place without him if he decides not to come back.

 

[bladeplayer]

Why? Would it be ok to say similar if he had been here 3 months or 6 months or a year?

not defo not ok to say it IMO , but if he was longer on he would have more insight to Bob & the help Bob has given over a longer period of time to pass judgement on it , thats what i was trying to get across

 

[bladeplayer]

Ok, maybe my wording was a bit harsh. What was meant by that was: don't get too emotional if someone questions your advice. Maybe they haven't understood the point or have convinced themselves of the validity of contradictory 'expertise'.

I'll try to reign the phrasing in next time.

No bother mate , i wast having a go or anything ,

 

[MadAdey]

First off.... Bob is a really nice bloke, he lives just up the road from me and I have had the pleasure of his company on the course. If you had met Bob you would realise that he is not the type of bloke to pick an argument face to face or sat behind his PC.

At times people have questioned his advice which I do not see a problem with, but it is the manner in which it is done. I have noticed that he is being questioned in a way that questions his knowledge as a PGA Pro. I will always ask questions when given advice as I want to have an understanding of what I am being told, but I would not question that persons expertise. I have questioned what people have been saying on here, just ask James. I questioned everything he was saying about new ball flight laws, but it was only as I did not understand it, which thanks to him I do now.

People have made some good points on here regarding what you are saying and how you are saying it. This is not your normal Internet forum as people do meet face to face on a regular basis so it is not just internet friends, they actually do go out and play.

Back to Bob though he gives out plenty of free advice on a regular basis. Last he played at my place he was giving free advice to my mate on the course and his advice was fantastic. After hitting a few bad tee shots he told my mate to just change one thing, then after he was smashing his drives down the middle, that is no coincidence this man knows what he is talking about.

 

[G1BB0]

top bloke, gives up his time for nothing, well apart from punting a few v-easy's I can understand why he has taken a sabatical as recently he was being (or so it seemed) criticised just for the sake of it. It wasn;t just a case of questioning his advice it was almost to the point of trying to ridicule it!

Hopefully he is just on holiday or something and will return soon :thup:

 

[MadAdey]

top bloke, gives up his time for nothing, well apart from punting a few v-easy's I can understand why he has taken a sabatical as recently he was being (or so it seemed) criticised just for the sake of it. It wasn;t just a case of questioning his advice it was almost to the point of trying to ridicule it!

Hopefully he is just on holiday or something and will return soon :thup:

NOthing wrong with peddling his V-easy. I am one of the biggest fans of it. I am with you though Gibbo on the fact that he was just getting criticised for the sake of it at times. People would argue with what he said for the sake of it as they did not state why they thought he was wrong, or if they did they spoke a right load of old crap.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Golf is full of smarty pants, always has been.

I used to coach many moons ago and if a pupil questioned what I was telling them to do I would welcome this. It generally meant that they had not fully understood what I was saying.
Like everything it is not what you say/type it is the way you say/type it.

Many golfers flounder around looking for the next 'fix' from the golfing gods.
They could have the best coach in the world and after two bad shots will run along to the next 'flavour of the month'.

Bob was very wise and generous both in his advice and the way he gave it to the forum.
A few 'smarty pants' [why do they always have high handicaps] seem to have spoiled it for the vast majority on this forum.

Please do not make the mistake that all PGA pro's are experts.
Llike most professions there is a share of chancers and carpetbaggers only too willing to part a fool from his/her money.