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Smiffy - you're a car Salesman right ?

Im assuming that you work for one of the big companies, Evans Halshaw or the likes ? Where, as you know, you're just another skivvie to squeeze on the never ending treadmill to profit......

So, why not trade on your own ? You choose the hours then.
I have 2 clients who work in the motor industry, one who does ok, and the other who spends £15k on a single holiday, and lives in a £2M mansion - purely by trading amongst the trade. Go figure.

If you dont like the heat, get out of da kitchen man !

Footnote : I closed my own 3 Travel Agencies 3 yrs ago to work from home, with purely the more discerning clientele, - works for me !
 

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If you are now working some Sundays, does that mean you now get Saturdays off?

You really do need to get a new job mate.
 

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sounds exactly the reason my mate is leaving van sales to be an 9-5 office supervisor. he's pissed off with work cutting into he's lack of golf time
 

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Have you opted out of the European Working Time Directive? Those hours sound illegal if you haven't.

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Have you opted out of the European Working Time Directive? Those hours sound illegal if you haven't.

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48 hours a week which is 6 days working 8 hours a day, + 24 hours rest every 7 days or 48 hours every 14.

So well within their rights :(
 

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Come on Smiffy youve been moaning about this job for months,surely you can get yourself another in the motoring trade.You know it makes sense,this job makes you ill[mentally].
 

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Not good Smiffy but the choice is yours. Put up with it with the inevitable further crap that will be dumped on you at a later date with the same "lump it or else" dictate or move on. Could you do as someone suggested and set up on your own (or maybe apartnership with someone else). Can you not go to your managers boss and see how the land lies?
 

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They really are out of order to spring that on you.

I work every sunday with the exception of 6 or so per year, I have every thursday off and every other saturday, but thats my choice.

If you could get out I would recommend it.

That or go out on your own but Im not sure its the right time to take that gamble at present, have to see how the year turns out.
 

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That or go out on your own but Im not sure its the right time to take that gamble at present, have to see how the year turns out.

exactly, its the wrong time to take a gamble in the motor-trade. id want to see how the vat raise effects things before taking any chances at the moment.
 

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The problem is that the overheads when car-dealing are huge and that is where the risk is.

You go through money like Dawn French goes through cakes and if you had a bad start with 3 quiet months you could be £40k down before you can blink. And thats on a small site.

Overheads are huge and profits small. Mark £1000 in a car and you are lucky to actually stick just £200 in your bin which for a £5k outlay for example, isnt a lot.
 

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If you are now working some Sundays, does that mean you now get Saturdays off?

Nope.
One day off a week, likely to be Wednesdays

Is that why you arranged to play with me on a Thursday !! I get the hint. ;)

Sorry to hear the job goes from bad to worse. Any chance of finding somewhere else ?
 

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Unfortunately, setting up on my own and going out trading is a "no no".
I'd need a lot more money than I can lay my hands on to get some stock around me, let alone find premises etc.
I'm just annoyed that I had had no warning about this. Not one inkling.
Just arrived at work this morning, told that this would be coming into effect immediately, like it or lump it.
Up until now I have been exempt from working Sundays, I work every Saturday and get a day off (midweek) every other week. So I am working a 5 1/2 day week.
Under the new scheme I will get a day off (midweek)every week, and work every other Sunday. Which means one week I'll be working a 5 day week, the other a 6. So I'm still theoretically working a 5 1/2 day week.
It just fecks up plans I have for seeing my own two kids who usually come down every 3rd week-end.
 

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I'm not expert but don't they usually have to go through some form of notification to change your terms and conditions and not present it as a fait accomplie (or whatever the phrase is)

In the ideal world Martin I guess they should.
But unfortunately, this is St Leonards Motors mate.
 

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Smiffy, what does your contract say??

If your days/hours are stipulated on that and they are changing then they'll need to draw up a new contract which you'll need to sign.

Plus, with a new contract comes new financial remuniration.
 
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