Blackballed Rules

[JCW]

:mmm::mmm: This is a subject that i think in many clubs is now out of date and most unfair and in many cases prevent golfers from joining clubs for no valid reason other then a personal gripe from a member

At my club its been changed and its now down to the committee , and its not one or two votes it has to be a majority vote , you as a member can write in but its still down to the committee , they do take what you say into consideration .

at some clubs its one letter from any member , no reason need be given and no explaination will be given

other clubs its just one vote on the committee and you are done for ,

I think it should change and reasons should be given and you should have the right to reply at very least , the whole thing is just unfair and does not show the club in good light

whats your views and whats the rule at your club :thup:

lastly i think we should have some rule in place but it has to be fair

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I think you club may need to consider coming into the 19th century. At a lot of clubs locally, you apply and at best there is a semi formal meeting with the captain or a member of the board and providing you can pay the membership it is a case of stumping up and joining. Unless your club is one of the really top ones, has a long waiting list and can afford to be as choosy as it sounds, why would you make the application process harder than it needs to be when most are struggling for revenue and members. Surely it is archaic to go down the committee road and voting process. Do you still need to be proposed and seconded?

 

[JCW]

I think you club may need to consider coming into the 19th century. At a lot of clubs locally, you apply and at best there is a semi formal meeting with the captain or a member of the board and providing you can pay the membership it is a case of stumping up and joining. Unless your club is one of the really top ones, has a long waiting list and can afford to be as choosy as it sounds, why would you make the application process harder than it needs to be when most are struggling for revenue and members. Surely it is archaic to go down the committee road and voting process. Do you still need to be proposed and seconded?

Yes proposed , seconded , played in with committee member then meeting in front of committee , your proposer 1st then you on your own , some other clubs in area , you have 2 play ins , photo and form posted for 14 days like ours to invite objections i guess, plus letter of introdution and so on , our joining fee is now £250 , it use to be £700 when i joined , some in the area are £2500 , most over a grand , i think you should have some sort of process , some clubs are OTT in this day and age , but that their rules

 

[DCB]

Yes proposed , seconded , played in with committee member then meeting in front of committee , your proposer 1st then you on your own , some other clubs in area , you have 2 play ins , photo and form posted for 14 days like ours to invite objections i guess, plus letter of introdution and so on ,

Jings, you can get a pass to get you into Faslane easier than that process

There really needs to be some modern thinking introduced in that club if that's the norm

 

[JCW]

Jings, you can get a pass to get you into Faslane easier than that process

There really needs to be some modern thinking introduced in that club if that's the norm

not my rules , i think some clubs are ott or is it down to committees wanting it that way

 

[drawboy]

Sounds good to me, often it is difficult to remove some of the unruly or trouble causing members of a club. We had a member who had physically attacked 3 other members on separate occasions before we finally got rid of him. Sometimes you cannot judge a book by it's cover and without a decent interview you could find this type of person at your club.
I do not hold with this getting rid of 19th century bunkum, bad members are bad members whatever the century.

 

[Shiny]

I am all for tradition in golf but I can now see why people think its a stuck up game.

 

[JCW]

I am all for tradition in golf but I can now see why people think its a stuck up game.

It is when you get blackballed and you dont know why , you dont have a right of reply and in most case no reason is given , its ok for clubs to stop a trouble maker with history at other clubs from joining , but in most cases its just someone with a gripe which you may or may not know about and they dont have to state the reason and you never get to know who it was either ............. i know of one case where a high court judge was blackballed , someone who was up before him did not like the sentence he was given , myself i would never do it to anyone , most i ever do is let the committee know if the guy is a trouble maker and let them decide

 

[duncan mackie]

It's all too easy to look at such situations from a singular perspective - well it's actually harder to look at them from anything else I suppose

Once upon a time a club was a club of like minded individuals, whether it was golf or otherwise, and such membership protocols were designed to ensure that the latter situation remained. Whether black balling is by a committee or the membership will be a function of the committee etc

It's certainly not the case that such practices restrict, limit or otherwise cause the demise of such organisations; it can be the other way round completely! Groucho Marks summed it up extremely well!

 

[richart]

Rumour has it that Jimmy Tarbuck was blackballed from Swinley. System can't be all bad.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Yes proposed , seconded , played in with committee member then meeting in front of committee , your proposer 1st then you on your own , some other clubs in area , you have 2 play ins , photo and form posted for 14 days like ours to invite objections i guess, plus letter of introdution and so on , our joining fee is now £250 , it use to be £700 when i joined , some in the area are £2500 , most over a grand , i think you should have some sort of process , some clubs are OTT in this day and age , but that their rules

Which clubs in the area require 2 play-ins and photo id?

 

[Andy]

Jings, you can get a pass to get you into Faslane easier than that process

Not the last time I was in the base working.

You want to try Coulport for hassle.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

In the 1970's my old Surrey club decided to let in an additional 30 members without the usual hassle.
About 10 of those guys spoiled the club.

 

[duncan mackie]

Which clubs in the area require 2 play-ins and photo id?

Knighton Heath according to their current procedure - however, given their current offer for 30 memberships without joining fees, they may find that it's not quite so easy to match the required membership increases with the right 30 members! Hopefully it should work itself out for them, but they will probably find it's not just the joining fee - and that's before those who have just paid one chime in!

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Knighton Heath according to their current procedure - however, given their current offer for 30 memberships without joining fees, they may find that it's not quite so easy to match the required membership increases with the right 30 members! Hopefully it should work itself out for them, but they will probably find it's not just the joining fee - and that's before those who have just paid one chime in!

They were looking for lady members last year, I phoned up to enquire for my other half. Basically, they couldn't get her in the door quick enough? Interview? Playing in? Forget that, send us a cheque and you're in!!

 

[garyinderry]

how can an interview tell you if someone is going to be a troublemaker? its all smiles and nods in an interview.

 

[lucan]

i was looking to join a local club last year witch has a reputation for a membership been some what hostile and full of there own importance needed a proposer and seconder play a round with a committe member then a interview in front of commitee.
i found out later a past captain of the club was a armed bank robber who stashed some of his ill gotten gains in his club locker after he was arrested he went on to be a police supergrass.
the members were emmbarresed when a tv show came out about two years ago when his name was mentioned turns out he was the first of the supergrasses and not a nice person by all accounts.
makes you wonder if the commitee members should get there own house in order first before acting as judge and jury
needles to say i did not join.

 

[Canfordhacker]

I know a number of people at Knighton Heath, including the lady vice captain, and I'm sure none of them have ever had to go through that rigmarole. Some of perceived stuffier clubs in the area are more formal (Broadstone, Parkstone, Ferndown) but nowhere near that bad. Not even moneybags Remedy Oak is.

 

[SAPCOR1]

Groucho Marks indeed!

 

[louise_a]

The first club I enquired about joining at the beginning of the year, want photo and a proposer/seconder and they are struggling for members.
I have since been told that the photos are displyed giving existing members a chance to object to membership being granted (might just be hearsay though)