Best Golf Course NEVER to hold "The Open"

seriously at a loss as to why you think it isn't a Links????

Enlighten me.

It is like saying Glenbervie is Heathland.

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Glenbervie is 100% parkland & in great condition at the moment thanks, Goswick well I just never got the feeling that it was a true Links course a few hole yes but the majority well they were just bland an seemed to be well just golf holes with no real links feeling about them. You obviously like it so each to their own but will never rate in my view a bit like The Glen sand based on some holes but not Links.
 
Glenbervie is 100% parkland & in great condition at the moment thanks, Goswick well I just never got the feeling that it was a true Links course a few hole yes but the majority well they were just bland an seemed to be well just golf holes with no real links feeling about them. You obviously like it so each to their own but will never rate in my view a bit like The Glen sand based on some holes but not Links.

I asked you why you thought it wasn't Links and frankly your answer is strange..it is Links golf no matter what your 'feelings' of it were.

Thanks for clearing that up,we got there eventually.
 
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I asked you why you thought it wasn't Links and frankly your answer is strange....it is Links golf no matter what your 'feelings' of it were.

Thanks for clearing that up,we got there eventually.

Nope poor excuse for Links golf.
 
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Glenbervie is 100% parkland & in great condition at the moment thanks, Goswick well I just never got the feeling that it was a true Links course a few hole yes but the majority well they were just bland an seemed to be well just golf holes with no real links feeling about them. You obviously like it so each to their own but will never rate in my view a bit like The Glen sand based on some holes but not Links.

Certainly felt linksy, if a little dull, to me. Blandness, with surprises/challenges, is one of the attributes of many great links holes.

Obviously, the key is to define Links. And once you do, try checking whether this year's Open venue qualifies - or any/most of the supposed links courses of Fife/West Lothian!

Indeed, neither Leven, nor Lundin would now qualify as 'true links' in some folks's definitions of Links.

I don't believe The Glen ever claimed to be a links course btw!

Oh, and Glenbervie is currently due to wet conditions, so your 'condition report' might well be out of date.
 
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Certainly felt linksy, if a little dull, to me. Blandness, with surprises/challenges, is one of the attributes of many great links holes.

Obviously, the key is to define Links. And once you do, try checking whether this year's Open venue qualifies - or any/most of the supposed links courses of Fife/West Lothian!

Indeed, neither Leven, nor Lundin would now qualify as 'true links' in some folks's definitions of Links.

I don't believe The Glen ever claimed to be a links course btw!

Oh, and Glenbervie is currently due to wet conditions, so your 'condition report' might well be out of date.


Can I ask when was the last time you played Glenbervie ?

Yes a little wet after the last few days rain but so will all parkland courses......

Both Leven and Lundin have been qualifying courses, Leven is still regarded as a true rugged Links course and holds the Oldest Amateur Championship in the world and has been won by many a now Pro golfer including Leee Westwood.

Not a True Links course you make me laugh.
 
Given that The Open has to be on a links course and has to have other courses nearby, for LFQ, and access and plentiful accommodation nearby, it's not surprising that the likes of Dornoch and Macrahanish are not on the circuit.

They are changing the format of LFQ from 2014, it will no longer be held on courses near to The Open venue, but on 4 courses spread throughout the UK. These are Royal Cinque Ports, Glasgow Gailes, Hillside and somewhat strangely Woburn.
 
Interesting link to this thread and the one where the guy from London was having a moan about the distance he had to travel to spectate at The Open.
Some of the courses nominated from England are just laughable as an Open venue. They would not even be good enough for qualifing.
 
Interesting link to this thread and the one where the guy from London was having a moan about the distance he had to travel to spectate at The Open.
Some of the courses nominated from England are just laughable as an Open venue. They would not even be good enough for qualifing.

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Interesting link to this thread and the one where the guy from London was having a moan about the distance he had to travel to spectate at The Open.
Some of the courses nominated from England are just laughable as an Open venue. They would not even be good enough for qualifing.


hmmm i guess you have personally experienced the said courses in england, compared to those in scotland as a basis for your comment.....

and this just isn't a stereotypical throwaway comment from somebody north of the border

edit - scotland has some great links courses - but there are some down here to :)
 
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Royal Aberdeen and Royal Dornoch.

I can'y see why they couldn't have it a Dornoch.

some great quilifying courses nearby such as Tain, Brora, Golspie or Skibo Castle;)

and as for Acom, i can just see tiger and phil and lee sharing a caravan at Grannies heland hame;)
 
If you take the UK top 100 courses as a guide the top three are
Royal County Down
Dornoch
Portrush.

Saunton is the best ranked[ non Open] English links at 31st.

I would agree that Kingsbarns is also a good call. Shame it is so near Stan Drews.
 
not at all i infact said i assume you have experienced said courses as a basis for your comment, so i thought you played them and yes you possibly could have lived in england.
so have you? and why don't you think they are good enough?

i was just amused at your post they are not even good enough for open quailifying, plus i felt like having a ruck

well im a member of burnham and berrow stated in the first post, and i don't think it can host an open for the record, its not long enough, hasn't got the infrusture, but its a great course for the keen amateur.
 
Played B&B about four times. The last time it took a full drive to reach the first fairway and a 6 felt like a birdie. It was in your Scratch Mixed and I said to my daughter if we broke 90 we would win it. I skinned a downwind wedge late on and we took a 9. winners were 87 and we were 3rd with a 91.
I can agree with you that it is totally unsuited for an Open.
 
Can I ask when was the last time you played Glenbervie ?

Yes a little wet after the last few days rain but so will all parkland courses......

Both Leven and Lundin have been qualifying courses, Leven is still regarded as a true rugged Links course and holds the Oldest Amateur Championship in the world and has been won by many a now Pro golfer including Leee Westwood.

Not a True Links course you make me laugh.

Apologies for missing the word 'Closed' from my post re Clenbervie. Course condition report on website (updated today at 07:45) says no buggies because of soft conditions.
Here's the equivalent from yesterday:

TheGolf Course is closed due to wet weather condition and is veryunlikely to reopen today. The Stirlingshire CackmannanshireLadies Summer Meeting has been cancelled. (updated 29/06/12at 1140hrs)


Actually, last time I played it was 2008/9. Previously 2002. Why do you ask? Has it changed (apart from no longer being home to SPGA)?

The 9 holes of the Lundin Ladies course, absorbed when Lundin was expanded to 18 are described in the Lundin website as 'a cross between links and parkland turf' - so that's certainly not 'pure' links is it.

Leven also took over, in 1909, playing fields. Again, there are some that would say that this was not 'pure' linksland.

As posted, it really depends on how you define 'links'. Kingsbarns would actually fail some folk's definition of 'links' on at least 1 count (possibly 2) and Royal Lytham & St Annes and Muirfield both fail on 1 traditional definitionm, Carnoustie another (maybe even 2!)!

And as posted by another, Final Qualifying courses don't need to be links ones. Sunningdale is used for IFQ and Woburn is apparently being used. Even when local courses are used, Ladybank, certainly not a links, is often used for LFQ for St Andrews Opens.
 
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What a surprisingly animated thread!

I am as big a fan of Silloth as anyone, but there is not a cat's chance in hell of it hosting an Open, based on its location, lack of local infrastructure and most of all, length. It would need to be at least 500 yards longer to stand a chance.

The only serious contenders for new additions to the roster right now are Royal Portrush and Trump Aberdeen. RCD is as good a course as any, but the lack of infrastructure is a serious issue for it. When the Senior's Open was held there a few years back, Palmer stayed at Turnberry and got a helicopter ride in and out each day.
 
The sands at Gullane beach used to reach as far as the 2nd tee at Muirfield. Within my lifetime.
Bents restoration work means that the sea is now half a mile away.
Muirfield has probably changed from a links to an upland links within 50 years.
 
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