Baroness Thatcher Dead

Dodger said:
Heard a good one today.

Her funeral should have been privatised, put out to tender and awarded to the lowest bidder.

The fact Big Ben is being quietened is a total joke but somewhat Ironic given all the headlines of ding dong the witch is dead over the past week.
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Not very funny or clever, was it?
 
Always look on the bright side of life . We all get there in the end. The ONLY thing in life that you HAVE to do is die . Cheer up and wait your turn.:smirk:
 
Dodger said:
Heard a good one today.

Her funeral should have been privatised, put out to tender and awarded to the lowest bidder.
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Don't think we have any nationalised funeral directors, though I wouldn't put it past Labour in the 70's. I do remember us not being able to bury or cremate the dead under Labour in the winter of 1978 due to council workers being on strike. You remember. Just before Mrs. T came to power.
 
Sweep said:
Don't think we have any nationalised funeral directors, though I wouldn't put it past Labour in the 70's. I do remember us not being able to bury or cremate the dead under Labour in the winter of 1978 due to council workers being on strike. You remember. Just before Mrs. T came to power.
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Yeah; I remember it well, it was about the same time the Industrial town in which I live actually had some industry.Including the pit I worked down. Where did that all go then ? :mmm:
 
Well it would have been a £10.000,000 tender.
I think that is a bit rich for the nation to pick up.
Where are the Tory donors when we really need them.

Just had this image of Group4 Staff lining the streets in florescent yellow vests.
 
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Just spent about 20mins looking back on many of the comments on this thread and where they come from.
The opinions are typical of the divide Thatcher created. It seems the largest section of southerners are Thatcher idolisers and the largest section of northerners Thatcher haters.

It annoys me when accused of disrespecting the dead when the right wing and rags like the mail are shoving Thatcher’s legacy and her canonisation of her down the throats of the millions who are suffering because of her legacy. She didn’t save Britain; she saved the South of Britain and ruined the rest.

That is why the divide on this thread between north and south is so clear to see. Don’t jump on this by saying I’m a northerner and love her, or visa versa, of course there are exceptions. The weight of opinion is clearly divided between north and south, on this thread alone

Her funeral is not just the funeral of an old lady (and I deplore the idiots dancing in the streets who were not even born at the time). But it’s being hoisted as a no expense spared victory parade of the right wing, rubbing the noses in of those who have had lives and communities ruined by her legacy. This £10 million carnival is reprehensible to those people. Old wounds are being re-opened by it.
 
Shaunmg said:
Just spent about 20mins looking back on many of the comments on this thread and where they come from.
The opinions are typical of the divide Thatcher created. It seems the largest section of southerners are Thatcher idolisers and the largest section of northerners Thatcher haters.

It annoys me when accused of disrespecting the dead when the right wing and rags like the mail are shoving Thatcher’s legacy and her canonisation of her down the throats of the millions who are suffering because of her legacy. She didn’t save Britain; she saved the South of Britain and ruined the rest.

That is why the divide on this thread between north and south is so clear to see. Don’t jump on this by saying I’m a northerner and love her, or visa versa, of course there are exceptions. The weight of opinion is clearly divided between north and south, on this thread alone

Her funeral is not just the funeral of an old lady (and I deplore the idiots dancing in the streets who were not even born at the time). But it’s being hoisted as a no expense spared victory parade of the right wing, rubbing the noses in of those who have had lives and communities ruined by her legacy. This £10 million carnival is reprehensible to those people. Old wounds are being re-opened by it.
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Here, here..... we need say no more
 
Shaunmg said:
Just spent about 20mins looking back on many of the comments on this thread and where they come from.
The opinions are typical of the divide Thatcher created. It seems the largest section of southerners are Thatcher idolisers and the largest section of northerners Thatcher haters.

It annoys me when accused of disrespecting the dead when the right wing and rags like the mail are shoving Thatcher’s legacy and her canonisation of her down the throats of the millions who are suffering because of her legacy. She didn’t save Britain; she saved the South of Britain and ruined the rest.

That is why the divide on this thread between north and south is so clear to see. Don’t jump on this by saying I’m a northerner and love her, or visa versa, of course there are exceptions. The weight of opinion is clearly divided between north and south, on this thread alone

Her funeral is not just the funeral of an old lady (and I deplore the idiots dancing in the streets who were not even born at the time). But it’s being hoisted as a no expense spared victory parade of the right wing, rubbing the noses in of those who have had lives and communities ruined by her legacy. This £10 million carnival is reprehensible to those people. Old wounds are being re-opened by it.
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+1:thup:
 
Shaunmg said:
Just spent about 20mins looking back on many of the comments on this thread and where they come from.
The opinions are typical of the divide Thatcher created. It seems the largest section of southerners are Thatcher idolisers and the largest section of northerners Thatcher haters.

It annoys me when accused of disrespecting the dead when the right wing and rags like the mail are shoving Thatcher’s legacy and her canonisation of her down the throats of the millions who are suffering because of her legacy. She didn’t save Britain; she saved the South of Britain and ruined the rest.

That is why the divide on this thread between north and south is so clear to see. Don’t jump on this by saying I’m a northerner and love her, or visa versa, of course there are exceptions. The weight of opinion is clearly divided between north and south, on this thread alone

Her funeral is not just the funeral of an old lady (and I deplore the idiots dancing in the streets who were not even born at the time). But it’s being hoisted as a no expense spared victory parade of the right wing, rubbing the noses in of those who have had lives and communities ruined by her legacy. This £10 million carnival is reprehensible to those people. Old wounds are being re-opened by it.
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I am a northerner and I love her :D As has been reported many times over the past few days, this funeral was given the green light by Tony Blair when he was PM. It really depends on your perspective as to how you see it. I take the opinion that it is not about politics, it is about marking the passing of a great Briton. Whatever side of the political divide you stand on, I don't think anyone can deny that she was patriotic and always stood up for Britain. The only people who are being accused of disrespecting the dead are those who you deplore, not those who disagreed with her politics. The £10 million price tag is being disputed and I am very much against waste of taxpayers money. But let's just put that in perspective with just one example. Under the last Labour government £500 million pounds a year was spent on new office furniture for Whitehall alone. £500 million a year. Every year. That is the kind of out of control spending you get if you leave Labour in power for too long, so it's a bit rich for them to be saying this is an unacceptable waste of public money now.
 
Sweep said:
I am a northerner and I love her :D As has been reported many times over the past few days, this funeral was given the green light by Tony Blair when he was PM. It really depends on your perspective as to how you see it. I take the opinion that it is not about politics, it is about marking the passing of a great Briton. Whatever side of the political divide you stand on, I don't think anyone can deny that she was patriotic and always stood up for Britain. The only people who are being accused of disrespecting the dead are those who you deplore, not those who disagreed with her politics. The £10 million price tag is being disputed and I am very much against waste of taxpayers money. But let's just put that in perspective with just one example. Under the last Labour government £500 million pounds a year was spent on new office furniture for Whitehall alone. £500 million a year. Every year. That is the kind of out of control spending you get if you leave Labour in power for too long, so it's a bit rich for them to be saying this is an unacceptable waste of public money now.
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SWEEP... your love of her is as apparent as your misguidedness.
You must be one of the few Northerners who escaped the damage she caused when in power and the pollution of her legacy OR you are just blinkered or a groomed Daily Mail reader.
 
Spoke with my mum earlier about this and she reminded me how my dad and her both disliked Maggie back then - as I did. But she also said she hoped there would be no trouble at the funeral and rather wished they had not silenced Big Ben at 11am. Why? Not because Maggie didn't merit it - only because she didn't want trouble makers to have further cause to get even more upset and increase risk of trouble. On that even my mother's very Tory mate agreed.

I'll note that Thatcher's legacy lives on with me. You may say it is completely illogical, but even today I cannot vote Tory because of the deep and ingrained association in my mind between voting Tory and supporting Thatcher. My parents were affected by Thatchers policies as everybody was, but not too badly. However they knew and worked with many who's lives and families were seriously affected and damaged, and coming from poor backgrounds could empathise with them and where they could would try and help out even although we did not have much ourselves They also HATED her aloof, hectoring and disregarding sounding nature given the suffering they saw around them and knew of.

Maybe that's the difference between a Northern and a Southern view of Thatcher and her policies (massive generilisation coming up but more than a kernal of truth in it I believe) - we cared for those around us almost as much as we cared for ourselves.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
Spoke with my mum earlier about this and she reminded me how my dad and her both disliked Maggie back then - as I did. But she also said she hoped there would be no trouble at the funeral and rather wished they had not silenced Big Ben at 11am. Why? Not because Maggie didn't merit it - only because she didn't want trouble makers to have further cause to get even more upset and increase risk of trouble. On that even my mother's very Tory mate agreed.

I'll note that Thatcher's legacy lives on with me. You may say it is completely illogical, but even today I cannot vote Tory because of the deep and ingrained association in my mind between voting Tory and supporting Thatcher. My parents were affected by Thatchers policies as everybody was, but not too badly. However they knew and worked with many who's lives and families were seriously affected and damaged, and coming from poor backgrounds could empathise with them and where they could would try and help out even although we did not have much ourselves They also HATED her aloof, hectoring and disregarding sounding nature given the suffering they saw around them and knew of.

Maybe that's the difference between a Northern and a Southern view of Thatcher and her policies (massive generilisation coming up but more than a kernal of truth in it I believe) - we cared for those around us almost as much as we cared for ourselves.
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Another divisive post. I wouldn't say many Northerners have chips on their shoulder, they have one on both shoulders. I would like to hear people lay out what should have been done to pull this country out of the depth of despair and shame it had descended. It was heading for the type of problems being seen in Greece and Cyprus with no bail out available. Under Labour the pound had tumbled to an all time low against other currencies, inflation was soaring, the country crippled by strikes, we had to go to the IMF to bail us out, we were pouring money into a black hole of Nationalised industries. OH Yes! it was bad but she took the tough decisions to drag us back and regain some respect in the world. Alas you cant achieve that without casualties.
 
SocketRocket said:
Another divisive post. I wouldn't say many Northerners have chips on their shoulder, they have one on both shoulders. I would like to hear people lay out what should have been done to pull this country out of the depth of despair and shame it had descended. It was heading for the type of problems being seen in Greece and Cyprus with no bail out available. Under Labour the pound had tumbled to an all time low against other currencies, inflation was soaring, the country crippled by strikes, we had to go to the IMF to bail us out, we were pouring money into a black hole of Nationalised industries. OH Yes! it was bad but she took the tough decisions to drag us back and regain some respect in the world. Alas you cant achieve that without casualties.
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Succinctly and accurately put
 
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