Ball flight

[JustOne]

Ahh, I get it now...

If I understand, the "old" method would suggest getting the face square (100% on target) to hit a draw, whereas the truth is with enough in-out, you don't actually want it square, just less "open" than the path.....

Me understandeeee.......that's how I've always understood it since that day getting C/F in 1998.

I'm glad I never learned the "old" method then......

SO, ergo, Nick Faldos idea of aiming the clubface at the target and the alignment right (for a draw) would in fact hit the tree....agreed....what he was really hitting was a strong in-out with the face probably right of flag at the moment of impact......just closed in relation to the path. Nick Faldo knows that......

I can die a happy man......

LOL,.. excellent description RGDave, now let's talk about the 'RELEASE'

 

[JustOne]

Face angle determines initial direction, swing path determines the side spin you put on it. Therefore, if your shots start straight, you have a swing path issue.

Can you elaborate on that a bit more?

Your swingpath is 'in-to-square-to-in' with the clubface pointing at the target.... issue?

 

[bobmac]

Face angle determines initial direction, swing path determines the side spin you put on it. Therefore, if your shots start straight, you have a swing path issue.

Can you elaborate on that a bit more?

Your swingpath is 'in-to-square-to-in' with the clubface pointing at the target.... issue?

I had to read this twice too but I think he means if the face is open at impact and the ball starts straight, the swing must be out to in.

 

[Macster]

Discuss....

Easy: Assuming his feet are lined up to the Flag, then he's hitting left of the flag, with a fade that will take it back to the fairway/green.
He's hitting 'C' on the drawing on the article linked.

If the clubface had been 'Open' to the Flag, then the 'fade' would be a massive 'slice', and he'd end up way right of the target.

*simples*

 

[JustOne]

Discuss....

Easy: Assuming his feet are lined up to the Flag, then he's hitting left of the flag, with a fade that will take it back to the fairway/green.
He's hitting 'C' on the drawing on the article linked.

If the clubface had been 'Open' to the Flag, then the 'fade' would be a massive 'slice', and he'd end up way right of the target.

*simples*

Um,.. No.

He's hitting F (assuming that his feet are square to the target line).

The club is straight at the flag.. so it's going straight at the flag. The spin is CUT SPIN so the ball will subsequently bend off to the right, missing the pin to the right.

 

[JustOne]

Face angle determines initial direction, swing path determines the side spin you put on it. Therefore, if your shots start straight, you have a swing path issue.

Can you elaborate on that a bit more?

Your swingpath is 'in-to-square-to-in' with the clubface pointing at the target.... issue?

I had to read this twice too but I think he means if the face is open at impact and the ball starts straight, the swing must be out to in.

LOL at that!, I read it THREE times (hehe) but it still makes no sense, as it would hardly be an issue. If your shots are starting straight then your clubface would be pointing at the target so the ball would go straight at the flag, you would be open to the path (cut spin) so you'll be landing to the right side of the target - not exactly a problem unless you are REALLY cutting across it OR intending to play a different shot.

The only thing I can think of is (for example) you are playing for a draw and let's say your clubface is 1° open to the target line and your intended swingpath is 2° across the line, if your swingpath only comes in at 1° across the line then your clubface will be square to the target line...eg: you'll hit it straight and not get the intended draw (ie: swingpath problem)

I would like to emphasise if you are reading this and not understanding it that when we are referring to swing paths out-to-in etc we are literally talking about a few degrees, 4 or 5 at the most... not as per the example pictures... they are exagerated for ease of display, you'd NEVER want to swing that much across a ball.

 

[bobmac]

And if anyone is confused, you wait till we start on the other 3 ball flight laws.

 

[USER1999]

Ok, this is what happens when the md appears behind you, and you panic and hit post, close window, without re-reading it.

Any way, Hapless hits straight, then hooks, so it is correct for him, or was last time we played.

Maybe.

 

[Plonko]

Discuss....

Reload.