Ball flight laws

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No idea if this has been discussed before so apologies if it has, but just found this article:

http://thesandtrap.com/playing_tips/ball_flight_laws

It's kinda messed my current thinking about my ball striking and why I hit certain shots - but the more I think about it the more it seems to make sense with my current problems.

The article basically says that club face angle has an 85% impact on initial ball direction whereas the swing path only has a max 15% impact.

Recently, to try to help combat a fade and top promote a draw I have started to keep the club face quite closed in my swing and very 'hooded' in the takeaway. This has indeed helped me hit it straighter and to draw it. Recently though (at about the same time) I have also developed a nasty pull - this may be a straight pull, pull-fade or pull-draw. I thought it was principally caused by an over the top swing out to in which caused me to pull the ball left, but this article would suggest that the fact the club face was being closed relative to the target line (which I was doing consciously) was responsible for the ball travelling left of the target line. Then whether the ball went straight, drew or faded was down to whether the club face was open or closed relative to the swing plane. So my shots were actually one of the following:

- straight pull - same as the traditional way of thinking - out to in swing path, club face square to swing path - club face closed to target line (hence the ball travelling left)

- pull-fade - Here the pull is caused by the club face being closed relative to the target line. But the club face was open relative to the swing plane - therefore there must be an out to in swing path. In order to correct this I should be working on my swing plane and not the club face as I was doing - I was seeing a fading ball and trying to close the club face even more - but it was already closed to the target line. I need to swing more in to out and the club face remain closed to target and I will draw the ball!

- pull-draw - club faced closed to target line and club face closed to swing plane. Now this was a common shot for me off the tee with a hybrid. But I thought this was purely due to me pulling the ball - this may be happening, but due to me only changing one thing in my swing (the closed club head) I was more likely swinging down the target line with a closed face which sent the ball left and drew it!

Interesting ! Anyone else aware of this way of analysing the swing? I should be able to stop my pull draws simply by not closing the clubface as much during the takeaway rather than adjusting my swing plane!
 
I just get too deep when thinking about all this stuff. I keep it simple: swing through the ball towards your target and concentrate on keeping all the basics right.

I think a lot of peoples technical issues come down to the basics so until they are in the right place a lot of people think too much on certain issues such as this one.

It's a good post but too in depth for me.
 
Cue.... JustOneUK....... :D :D

LOL, I was just pondering my answer and can't think of anything to add other than Yes, I knew that too. :p

If you want to hit the ball out to the right and then have it curve back in the clubface needs to be aiming to the right (open), the ball will curve back in provided that your swingpath is coming from the inside. If you want to start the ball left then the clubface must be pointing to the left.... again, the swingpath will determine which way the ball curves... simples# :p
 
Cue.... JustOneUK....... :D :D

LOL, I was just pondering my answer and can't think of anything to add other than Yes, I knew that too. :p

If you want to hit the ball out to the right and then have it curve back in the clubface needs to be aiming to the right (open), the ball will curve back in provided that your swingpath is coming from the inside. If you want to start the ball left then the clubface must be pointing to the left.... again, the swingpath will determine which way the ball curves... simples# :p

Wot he said.

Clubface angle = initial direction

Swingpath = later direction.
 
...and here's Justin Rose (remember him? - the hottest player on the planet) telling us the WRONG way :D


Even the Tour pros don't know what they're doing, can you imagine what we've been taught for the past 50 years?

What a twit he is (J.R.)

Even the most stupid person on the planet is not going to fall for that guff. If his clubface is pointing "down the target line" at impact, all he's going to hit is a slice that starts on target. What he really played (if indeed the shot worked out) was the clubface aiming left of target (closed a few degrees) coupled with a path even further left.....

Do his clubs have vertical grooves on?...if not (and it's a rhetorical q?) how will the ball start left? Answer - it won't. :)

a bit like the Faldo draw explanation (the opposite, in fact)....where there was a tree in the way. :o
 
What's to say you should always point at the target?

I find it much easier to line my body up to the right (if I want a draw/hook) then close the clubface slightly. That way I'm still using the same swing as normal and not having to manipulate it.

Is that so wrong?
 
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