Baby parking

[User20204]

I’m simply replying to posts

You're not "simply" replying to posts though are you ? You're relying with insults, your replying to posts that aren't even directed at you, with insults and your reply about someone parking in the captains spot says it all, it's nothing to do with you.

Do you go about reporting cars parked on double yellow lines ? I suspect you do. I bet you also report cars parked outside your house on the street.

What is incredible is you just don't see how you are coming across, despite, not me but another poster telling you, yet I'm the troll and you're Mister Goody two Shoes.

 

[PJ87]

You're not "simply" replying to posts though are you ? You're relying with insults, your replying to posts that aren't even directed at you, with insults and your reply about someone parking in the captains spot says it all, it's nothing to do with you.

Do you go about reporting cars parked on double yellow lines ? I suspect you do. I bet you also report cars parked outside your house on the street.

What is incredible is you just don't see how you are coming across, despite, not me but another poster telling you, yet I'm the troll and you're Mister Goody two Shoes.

Only one person gets the insults tho.. thought you were done? Shame...

 

[Wolf]

https://www.motherandbaby.co.uk/fam...t-and-child-parking-spaces-the-dos-and-don-ts

Again so what it's private land but not a law so again it comes down to whether the companies will actually uphold these rules and you have to prove it. In your case you saw the woman but how many times are these spaces used by non parents does it wind you up everytime even when you may know some of those spaces you want are used but you can't prove it. It's a pointless rule if they decide to sign post it because it can't be accurately followed through on without witnesses, and your link alone clearly states nothing may be done.

 

[User20204]

Only one person gets the insults tho.. thought you were done? Shame...

Another cracking reply, well done, proud of you.

 

[Wolf]

Only one person gets the insults tho.. thought you were done? Shame...

Hence the reason you seem like the troll not the person your aiming insults at because there are many others even myself disagreeing with you yet you point out one person's opinion and insult them.

I'm not taking sides here and saying you are a troll but you need take a step back and look at what you have been posting to replies before you call people out for being a troll, you can't insult people then state they're the problem when you went down that road first, it makes your argument irrelevant, makes you come across in ways I'm sure you don't wish to be seen and stops the thread having the impact you wanted.

 

[PJ87]

Again so what it's private land but not a law so again it comes down to whether the companies will actually uphold these rules and you have to prove it. In your case you saw the woman but how many times are these spaces used by non parents does it wind you up everytime even when you may know some of those spaces you want are used but you can't prove it. It's a pointless rule if they decide to sign post it because it can't be accurately followed through on without witnesses, and your link alone clearly states nothing may be done.

Like I said previous anytime I see someone using them that clearly shouldn’t.. I will say something as will most of the baby parents I know because they know how frustrating it is when some selfish person has parked in one just to save a walk and they have to struggle to get their child out

 

[PJ87]

Hence the reason you seem like the troll not the person your aiming insults at because there are many others even myself disagreeing with you yet you point out one person's opinion and insult them.

I'm not taking sides here and saying you are a troll but you need take a step back and look at what you have been posting to replies before you call people out for being a troll, you can't insult people then state they're the problem when you went down that road first, it makes your argument irrelevant, makes you come across in ways I'm sure you don't wish to be seen and stops the thread having the impact you wanted.

I only insult the troll because of the way he started on the thread. Clearly trolling .

I haven’t insulted you or others who have come up with reasoned and thought out points and counter arguments.

 

[PJ87]

Hence the reason you seem like the troll not the person your aiming insults at because there are many others even myself disagreeing with you yet you point out one person's opinion and insult them.

I'm not taking sides here and saying you are a troll but you need take a step back and look at what you have been posting to replies before you call people out for being a troll, you can't insult people then state they're the problem when you went down that road first, it makes your argument irrelevant, makes you come across in ways I'm sure you don't wish to be seen and stops the thread having the impact you wanted.

I suggest you re read posts 11.15.16 and 22

Clearly on the wind up

 

[chrisd]

I’m not wound up about it 24 hours later I’m simply replying to posts

There is rules regarding these spaces as I posted previous as it’s private land and is enforceable by means of a parking fine if you are seen to misuse it by a parking attendant

I posted a link to that yesterday

Paul, if it's a private parking area (ie not council owned) the owners cannot 'fine' anyone. What they issue is an 'invoice' usually claiming a 'breach of contract'. I've dealt with several of these for people and never once paid one. They are often wrongly issued or do not hold up in law and road signs and markings in private car parks have no meaning either really other than a request to park as the owners wish. Yes, they may issue an invoice but I'd 100% challenge it and wouldn't reckon to pay.

 

[PJ87]

Paul, if it's a private parking area (ie not council owned) the owners cannot 'fine' anyone. What they issue is an 'invoice' usually claiming a 'breach of contract'. I've dealt with several of these for people and never once paid one. They are often wrongly issued or do not hold up in law and road signs and markings in private car parks have no meaning either really other than a request to park as the owners wish. Yes, they may issue an invoice but I'd 100% challenge it and wouldn't reckon to pay.

Sounds about right. However the fact is it’s clearly against the rules and if I’m not out with my daughter I will stick to the rules and not use the spaces so that someone else can use them how they are suppose to be used

Don’t see the issue with people being more considerate and leaving things for people that actually need them

 

[Wolf]

I've read them all, not trolling at all that's his opinion. You see them as trolling as it's your thread and you don't like the fact he has a differing opinion that is frankly polar opposite to your own. It only gets heated when you start insulting him.

Sorry Paul you can't claim innocence here or call him out as a troll, yes perhaps some of what he says is controversial to you and perhaps as a parent your taking it personally but fact is he is right parents should take responsibility for their child and not rely on PC spaces to do it for them.

You've lost the thread entirely now because your rant has turned in to nothing more than a personal issue with another poster. For that alone there really is no point anyone debating this further as its not a debate at all because you refuse to accept others have differing opinions and don't believe your right to be so overly offended.

 

[User20204]

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I’m not wound up about it

You are and you just don't like the tone of my replies because I think your reporting of it was pathetic. You're so wound up about it your trying to use me as a wind up because I completely disagree with you on this. So just for clarification, I still think these bays are absurd, I still think you or anyone else for that matter reporting it is pathetic and I still think you should just mind your own business and be on your merry way going about your business.

 

[PJ87]

I've read them all, not trolling at all that's his opinion. You see them as trolling as it's your thread and you don't like the fact he has a differing opinion that is frankly polar opposite to your own. It only gets heated when you start insulting him.

Sorry Paul you can't claim innocence here or call him out as a troll, yes perhaps some of what he says is controversial to you and perhaps as a parent your taking it personally but fact is he is right parents should take responsibility for their child and not rely on PC spaces to do it for them.

You've lost the thread entirely now because your rant has turned in to nothing more than a personal issue with another poster. For that alone there really is no point anyone debating this further as its not a debate at all because you refuse to accept others have differing opinions and don't believe your right to be so overly offended.

Well we will have to agree to disagree then. The posts as i read them were to add nothing but a wind up to the thread . Some others have posted little jokes but were clearly just humour rather than trying to just belittle the situation. However we will not agree on this so will say nothing further here

Yesterday I was very cross about the situation and this morning getting a reply saying it will be dealt with to me was the end of it and I haven’t given it a second thought outside of this thread.

I will still continue to say to people who misuse them because that’s my opinion that they shouldn’t be misused .

Anyways have a good weekend and thanks for the debate.

 

[chrisd]

Sounds about right. However the fact is it’s clearly against the rules and if I’m not out with my daughter I will stick to the rules and not use the spaces so that someone else can use them how they are suppose to be used

Don’t see the issue with people being more considerate and leaving things for people that actually need them

I'm not in disagreement Paul, I just wanted to highlight that it's a civil matter and that any ticket on the windscreen is simply an invoice and I, for one, would never pay. I do, however, try to be reasonable about my parking habits but I certainly would not bother to start arguing 'rules' when they are not enforceable and dobbing people in.

 

[PJ87]

I'm not in disagreement Paul, I just wanted to highlight that it's a civil matter and that any ticket on the windscreen is simply an invoice and I, for one, would never pay. I do, however, try to be reasonable about my parking habits but I certainly would not bother to start arguing 'rules' when they are not enforceable and dobbing people in.

I do think however there is a massive case of irony involved here how people wouldn’t report something for a misuse of rules (which aren’t law just rules)

However if it came to a round of golf (a game) we expect everyone to stick to the rules if we agree with them or not and would report people who broke them

 

[MegaSteve]

Paul, if it's a private parking area (ie not council owned) the owners cannot 'fine' anyone. What they issue is an 'invoice' usually claiming a 'breach of contract'. I've dealt with several of these for people and never once paid one. They are often wrongly issued or do not hold up in law and road signs and markings in private car parks have no meaning either really other than a request to park as the owners wish. Yes, they may issue an invoice but I'd 100% challenge it and wouldn't reckon to pay.

That's handy to know... I'll have her park the car in the EV charging spaces next time we go shopping... Plus, as the drivers will likely be tree hugging hippies, its unlikely they'll challenge me to a bit of fisticuffs....

 

[chrisd]

I do think however there is a massive case of irony involved here how people wouldn’t report something for a misuse of rules (which aren’t law just rules)

However if it came to a round of golf (a game) we expect everyone to stick to the rules if we agree with them or not and would report people who broke them

It depends on what you mean by rules I think. If you mean "cheat" then i would possibly report them in certain circumstances but you really can't compare someone parking inconsiderately to someone cheating at golf

 

[chrisd]

That's handy to know... I'll have her park the car in the EV charging spaces next time we go shopping... Plus, as the drivers will likely be tree hugging hippies, its unlikely they'll challenge me to a bit of fisticuffs....

I'd suggest you be very careful Steve, Mrs d owns an all electric Nissan Leaf and she can be a mean and nasty lady! 😤

 

[Slab]

In hindsight maybe just a one off post in the Random Irritation thread would have covered it & to let the OP vent

 

[backwoodsman]

To make the shopping experience better, I've always thought that supermarkets should have a very large bin by the car park entrance, into which you deposit all children on arrival. If we implemented that, then there'd be no need for special parking bays and problem solved.

(Ps: And a separate bin for people suffering from "Oh, do I need to get my purse out?" syndrome ...)